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An activity that I have included in some of my presentation is handing
out plastic forks to everyone in the audience. I also grab one and then
very quickly say. "ok, on the count of three we are all going to poke
ourselves in the eye with the fork, one, two, three" and then I make the
action as if I was going to poke myself in the eye with the fork.
Everyone in the audience is generally pretty shocked by the whole thing.
We then go on to talk about how we know what our own boundaries and
limits are about certain activities. Drunkeness will not change that.
You don't ever hear about people poking themselves in the eye when they
are drunk.
A perp will commit the act whether or not he is drunk, but here alcohol
may act as "liquid courage".
As for the victim, same thing, they know whether or not they want to
have sex with someone, you aren't going to have sex with someone when
you are drunk that you wouldn't if you were sober. Alcohol, for the
victim, makes it difficult to get out of a volatile situation, having
affected the ability to judge situations and people.
Same thing with drunk driving-you have already made a decision in your
head whether or not you think driving drunk is ok or whether or not you
would get in a car with someone. Certainly we all say no to the
immediate thought, but when you start to discuss different contexts the
choice becomes more difficult. Helping students to problem solve through
different scenarios when they are sober will help them when they are
drunk.
Rebecca Harrington
SUNY Oneonta

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When working with students, you may want to be very careful of using the
approach of "When you choose to drink, you are still responsible for
what you do" because many students will immediately respond with "Then
how come a drunk person cannot give consent?  If I am responsible for
what I do when I'm drunk, then my partner is too.  She is responsible
for saying 'YES' to sex when she is drunk."

Mike Domitrz, CSP
The Date Safe Project
"Teaching Boundaries, Respect, & Sexual Assault Awareness for Teenagers
& Young Adults."

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On May 22, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Kile, Marilyn J wrote:

Here are some ideas.

POSTER text:

Being drunk is NO EXCUSE for
hitting someone with your car;
hitting someone with your fists;
having sexual contact with someone without their consent.

When you choose to drink you are still responsible for what you do.

PRESENTATION text:

Let's say I go out drinking and then I hit someone with my car.  What if
I say to you, "It's not my fault. I was drunk.  I didn't know what I was
doing.  Do you know how hard it is to control a car when you've been
drinking?  I couldn't help it.  It's not my fault. Gees, I never would
have done it if I'd been sober. I'm not that kind of person."  What
would you say to that?  Well, it's the same thing if you sexually
assault someone when you've been drinking. You are responsible for your
actions.

Marilyn J. Kile, LCSW
Sexual Assault Prevention Coordinator
2022 Ambrose Health Center
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
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Whitewater, WI  53190
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Hi again all,

I am interested in incorporating the drunk driving analogy against
victim blaming (i.e. we don't excuse drunk drivers because they were
drunk and the drinking status of someone who gets hurt is irrelevant)
into our first year program. Does anyone have a written version of such
an analogy?

Thanks!
Michelle

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