Subject: Scholarly discussion of the music of John Cage.
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- From: Vitor Rua <>
- To: Mark Kolmar <>
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- Subject: [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke...
- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:13:28 +0100
you are absolutly right dear mark... best regards... vitor rua
On 25 Oct 2011, at 23:07, Mark Kolmar wrote:
All --
I would call 0'00" a composition about compositions, words about music, like a review of a style, or a plea for a kind of music made after the pattern that the score describes. A lot of Fluxus, in practice, ranges from poetry to advice. That is fine and useful. Sometimes I feel that the discussion on these topics falls into semantics as much as concepts.
--Mark
On 10/25/2011 1:40 PM, Rob Haskins wrote:
Sorry, I accidentally sent this only to wonderful Vitor:
With all due respect to Vitor, I would call 0'00" a composition. It's
not conventionally musical, but its instructions (to perform a
disciplined action at the highest level of amplification before feedback
occurs) ensure that the piece is about the sounds produced.
The concept of organized sound, for Cage, largely disappears once Cage
embraces chance operations. For at this point, any continuity (read:
organization) becomes acceptable /(Lecture on Something/).
Sorry I can't write more on this at the moment.
Best,
Rob
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Jim Flannery
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Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 11:08:00 AM, one wrote:
> if you create organized sound performing 0`00``you are performing it
> wrong !!!
So when Cage performed the piece, he was doing it wrong?
I think you've under-understood the score.
- [silence] 0'00" is a joke..., Josh Ronsen, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Tim Ovens, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Jim Flannery, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Rob Haskins, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., matteo pittoni, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Mark Kolmar, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Rob Haskins, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Jim Flannery, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Tim Ovens, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Matt Rogalsky, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Matt Rogalsky, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Matt Rogalsky, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] more, off-list, Matt Rogalsky, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., David Badagnani, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Matt Rogalsky, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
- [silence] Re: 0'00" is a joke..., Vitor Rua, 10/25/2011
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