Scholarly discussion of the music of John Cage.

[Vitor Rua <>]

nobody can perform 0`00``!!!

there is no "time" !!!

there is "before" and "after" you think you are going to perform a  
piece !

but how can you perform something that has no time? no duration?...  
there is no time to perform because 0`00``there have no duration so  
didn´t exist !

how can you produce "spontaneous sound" in no duration time?

if you create organized sound performing 0`00``you are performing it  
wrong !!!

nothing happens in 0 seconds because nothing can happen when there is  
no duration... if you perform sound organized its before or after the  
0 seconds and that it´s not the piece...

sorry but i am very inclined to say to you that 0`00``its peraphs the  
best joke (and Art problem) cage invented !!

its good that cage did it to us staying here talking abd discussing  
what is music and art... and this is for shure one of the BEST  
CONCEPTUAL ART MUSIC EVER !! like the Duchamp urinol but goes further...

but:

1. its nor music
2. it can´t be performed

many thanks and regards
vítor rua



On 25 Oct 2011, at 18:41, Tim Ovens wrote:

> But in the moment, when I perform 0`00``, I organize the sounds. I  
> arrange the amplifying equipment. I fix the time, when I begin my  
> performance. Even though I produce spontaneous sounds, which I did  
> not plan before performing, in the moment when I produce a sound I  
> "organize" it, give it a place in time.
>
> Of course no score for itself is music or organized sound. At first  
> it is an organisation of sound, and the performing is organized  
> sound. And 0`00`` gives us the instruction in which way we have to  
> "organize" any sounds: creating any sounds and amplifying them.
>
> Best,
> Tim