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- From: Amanda Childress <>
- To: Tom Schiff <>
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- Subject: Re: Looking for speaker team
- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:51:04 -0400
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We may have to consider the laws by state and consider what we're looking for
in a presentation. In Ohio, are sexual assault continuum looks at sexual
battery and rape very differently and our campus has more of a sexual battery
problem than rape, according to our legal definitions.
Sexual Battery: as 'COERCING another person into any type of intercourse that
the person does not want OR having intercourse when the person's ability to
consent is impaired by alcohol or other intoxicants.'
Rape: 'using force or the threat of force to have intercourse OR sustantially
impairing another's judgement with a controlled substance to have intercourse.
On most college campuses you're looking at SA's that involve coercion and
alcohol, not always force or the threat of force. The Sex Signals program may
not do a very good job if you're trying to address a campus culture of forced
RAPE. Because they don't hit on the force/threat of force or drugged
assaults.
Their program looks more at the coercion and miscommunication that men and
women tend to do by assuming one thing and acting on it instead of checking
to
get consent or verbalizing your wants. Even though it is still the one who
ACTS that is at fault, usually being the male. Most likely they need a better
disclaimer or introduction to address this in the Sex Signals program, but
their program tends to hit the perpretrators that "DON'T think that what
they're doing is sexual assault." The average Joes that were/are socialized
to
think "she's playing hard to get, so I should keep persuing" or the average
Janes who think "I don't really like what he's doing, but it's not nice to
tell him that." Their program looks at risk reduction as to how each person,
male or female can reduce their risk of people getting in these situations,
where one person thinks it's consensual and the other feels violated.
Hope that helps.
Amanda Childress
Quoting Tom Schiff
<>:
> My experience of it was that it wasn't overt enough. The students
> with whom
> I spoke used the word manipulated. And condescension. And again I
> agree with
> Juliette, they seemed to focus on mis-communication, and thus could
> be
> perceived has supporting victim blaming.
>
> Another piece that Juliette brought up which I find interesting is
> about
> behavior change. Has this program, or other similar programs, done
> any
> evaluation of impact (not whether folks were entertained)?
>
> Sorry if I sound cynical. Not my best day today. However, I will add
> that
> perhaps this program could be very effective if framed well in the
> context
> of lots of other ongoing work.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chad Sniffen"
> <>
> To:
> <>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:45 PM
> Subject: RE: Looking for speaker team
>
>
> > Tom, could you say a little bit more about what you found to be
> > manipulative about it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chad
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> >
> > [mailto:]
> > On Behalf Of Tom
> Schiff
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:42 AM
> > To:
> >
> > Subject: Re: Looking for speaker team
> >
> > I saw this production a few years ago, and unless it has changed,
> I
> > would agree with Juliette. I found it to be manipulative. Isn't
> that
> > something we are working against?
> >
> > Perhaps Jackson, etc. have women with whom they work and with whom
> you
> > could con-contract. MVP out of Northeastern typically has female /
> male
> > teams working together.
> >
> > Tom Schiff, Ed.D.
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> > Amherst, MA 01003
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Amanda Childress
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- Looking for speaker team, Rose-Mockry, Katherine G, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Chad Sniffen, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Juliette Grimmett, 07/21/2008
- Re: Looking for speaker team, Tom Schiff, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Wantland, Ross A, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Chad Sniffen, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Juliette Grimmett, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Chad Sniffen, 07/21/2008
- Re: Looking for speaker team, Tom Schiff, 07/21/2008
- Re: Looking for speaker team, Amanda Childress, 07/21/2008
- Re: Looking for speaker team, Juliette Grimmett, 07/21/2008
- Re: Looking for speaker team, Tom Schiff, 07/21/2008
- Re: Looking for speaker team, Amanda Childress, 07/21/2008
- Re: Looking for speaker team, Amanda Childress, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Juliette Grimmett, 07/21/2008
- Re: Looking for speaker team, Tom Schiff, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Juliette Grimmett, 07/21/2008
- RE: Looking for speaker team, Chad Sniffen, 07/21/2008
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- FW: Looking for speaker team, Rose-Mockry, Katherine G, 07/22/2008
- Assistant Director of Counseling Services, MacDonald, Shawn V, 07/22/2008
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