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["Sean Chavez" <>]

I also have a concern about the "Verbal Judo" and the goal of this is to 
"escape" out of a situation without any "form of physical or verbal 
resistance." Being from a resistance based state I don't feel that is the 
best advice to give women. 
Any thoughts? 

Sean Chavez
Program Specialist
Violence Prevention Programs
University of Idaho 

208-885-2095
 

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From: 

 
[mailto:]
 On Behalf Of Linder,Chris
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:30 AM
To: Juliette Grimmett; Katherine G Rose-Mockry; 
;
 Candace Daniels
Subject: RE: online sexual assault program

Hi All,

I have some significant concerns around the material included in this online 
sexual assault program. While I recognize that it clearly works for some 
campuses with limited staff and resources, I think it is important to 
recognize that this program is at best heterosexist and at worst homophobic. 
The use of male on male rape to evoke empathy in college men has been 
controversial for some time, and this program uses that perspective. I think 
the homophobic message inherent in this type of "empathy" causes far more 
damage than good. In addition, the video perpetuates many essentializing 
messages around gender that further alienates transgender and gender-queer 
students. We have done a disservice to the GLB and Transgender community for 
far too long and I think that the use of heterosexist material continues 
this. I'm not sure how to counter this when doing these kinds of generic 
programs that might be better than not doing anything, but I think it needs 
to at least be acknowledg
 ed.

In addition to the lack of messages around GLB and T issues, it also does not 
address other marginalized populations - issues around sexual assault are 
different in communities of color and the disabled community than they are in 
the dominant culture, and this program does not address these factors either.

It is also expensive. If someone would give our office $6 for every incoming 
student to our campus, we could do a lot to reach incoming students in 
various ways - potentially multiple programs in 1st year classes.

Just some more food for thought...

Chris




Chris Linder
Director, Women's Programs & Studies
112  Student Services
Fort Collins, CO 80523-8200
Phone: (970) 491-6384
Fax: (970) 491-4922

wps.colostate.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: 

 
[mailto:]
 On Behalf Of Juliette Grimmett
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:48 AM
To: Katherine G Rose-Mockry; 
;
 Candace Daniels
Subject: RE: online sexual assault program

Hi Kathy and everyone else-

your concerns are all very valid.  Ultimately, just like with any
program, there is no perfect way to do this.  My thoughts are that this
program is a great way to get something out to all of your students as
long as you ALSO continue to do programming all over campus to show that
there is a person behind this AND that they know there is someone they
can speak with.  By itself with no follow-up, not a great idea.

I definitely heard that some of our students multi-tasked during the
program and that can't be helped.  Even in a classroom, who knows which
students are doing something else...what can be an advantage to this
program is that for students that are very uncomfortable in groups or
for those that may be triggered, this type of module allows students to
do it on their own time, in phases, and in a place that they feel safe.


I looked at this program as being able to do SOMETHING that I can't.  I
alone cannot go and provide a baseline program for all 5000+ first-year
students.  Some of them I will be able to reach in a classroom, RA
training, housing workshop, etc., but it is not guaranteed.  This at
least ensures the opportunity of reaching them all, and provides some
baseline if I get to meet with them in person.  From the data we have
been collecting, most students incoming students (upwards of 90%) have
not received any SV programming before coming to campus, so this is
better than nothing.

Also, while modules with acting can have a cheese factor, they are a
million times better than the SexualAssault EDU program and have some
diversity in their members.  I haven't gone through all of our
evaluations/data, but overall it seems that at least our students did
not find it too cheesy, but it is definitely a great idea to ask your
students what they think.

Also, the price is what they call "the price of a movie ticket per
person."  So, somewhere around $7/8 per student is my guess.  You may be
able to work out a figure that works for both of you if you decide to go
ahead with the program.

All this said, it is a huge cost and something that I believe the
University/College itself should pay for - not the Women's Centers and
IPV centers.  Many are paying for the Alcohol EDU program, we need to
get them on board with this as well.

juliette

"It's so liberating and important for men to understand that they can
actually be friendly to women instead of playing some gender-specific
role, and that women are in most ways the same as they are. I think that
lots of women already know that, but not so many guys do."  -my dad
8/3/07

Juliette Grimmett, MPH
Rape Prevention Education Coordinator
NC State University
Women's Center
3120 Talley Student Center
Campus BOX 7306
Raleigh, NC 27695-7306
Office: (919) 513-3232
24 Hour Sexual Violence Hotline: (919)618-RAPE (7273)
Fax: (919) 515-1066
email: 

website: http://www.ncsu.edu/womens_center



>>> "Rose-Mockry, Katherine G" 
>>> <>
>>>  12/11/2007 11:26 AM
>>>
Hi Candace and group members,

I received this information as well and visited the site to view the
program.  From my perspective, it is a good idea but has some inherent
problems:

1.  Students can multi-task (or simply not attend to it) while
watching.
The video producers have included a pre and post test to make it less
likely students will stop watching it altogether, but I think smart
students know how to answer these with limited involvement.

2.  It is easier to not connect emotionally when watching a video than
in a presentation.  I've always felt that one of our most important
tasks is connecting with students on an emotional level, which is
where
the real change comes about.

3.  The student actors come off as too "scripted" and the dialogue
seems
a bit insincere for me - students may not see it the way I do though.

I am going to get some of our students to take a look at it and give
me
feedback - would like to know what those of you who have used it think
about it.  I also notice it's hard to get specific info about the cost
of this program.

Kathy

Kathy Rose-Mockry
Program Director, Emily Taylor Women's Resource Center
University of Kansas
(785) 864-3552

www.etwrc.ku.edu

The Student Involvement and Leadership Center exists because
involvement
enhances learning




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From: 

[mailto:]
 On Behalf Of Daniels,
Candace
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:00 AM
To: 

Subject: online sexual assault program


Hello all -



I just received a brochure in the mail about an online sexual assault
prevention program called nformd.net (http://nformd.net
<http://nformd.net/> ). I have never heard of it before today, and
wanted to know if anyone has any experience with it. If you have used
it, how was it received on your campus? Do the students actually visit
the site?



Thanks!!





Candace Daniels

Sexual Assault Response and Prevention Coordinator

St. Mary's College of Maryland

TEL: 240.895.4289





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