Scholarly discussion of the music of John Cage.

[hans w. koch <>]

dear all,

(i am a subscriber of the digest, hence i reply to the first mail in my 
inbox, but read the others online),

first, i am very thankful for all those candid answers to my humble question!

bills suggestion of a very literal reading also to mee seems the most 
convincing, though i also do enjoy the allusion to bucky fuller which andrew 
points out.
and the more “poetic” interpretaions (refering more to poiesis here) open up 
interesting trains of thought.

thank you so much,

best regards

hans



> Am 23.04.2018 um 14:40 schrieb David Miller <>:
> 
> Hello Hans,
> 
> An interesting question, and I won't pretend to have an authoritative 
> answer. What comes to mind about "two", though, is that the possibility of 
> relationship arises when there are two. Relationship and then movement. Two 
> eventually give rise to three, and then there's your new universe. So it 
> may not indicate dualism as much as the minimum possibility for making a 
> world.
> 
> But is that what Cage had in mind? Others may confirm or deny :-).
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> David M.
> 
> From:  <> on behalf 
> of hans w. koch <>
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 3:42 AM
> To: 
> Subject: [silence] question re: The automatic minimum (see above) is two.
>  
> dear all,
> 
> i might overlook something glaringly obvious, but anyway, i have a question:
> 
> in hs text “experimental music: doctrine”, cage writes:
> Relevant action is theatrical (music [imaginary separation of hearing from 
> the other senses] does not exist), inclusive and intentionally purposeless. 
> Theatre is continually becoming that it is becoming; each human being is at 
> the best point for reception. Relevant response (getting up in the morning 
> and discovering oneself musician) (action, art) can be made with any number 
> (including none (none and number, like silence and music, are unreal]) of 
> sounds. The automatic minimum (see above) is two.
> 
> now: what does that "The automatic minimum (see above) is two.” refer to?
> in the paragraphs above the one quoted, cages seems to dismiss all 
> dichotomies, notably the one between sound and silence.
> and yet here he seems getting back to that?
> or does “automatic” here reference a kind of reflex?
> 
> thanks for your help and insights
> 
> hans
> 
> 
> "Now I a fourfold vision see And a fourfold vision is given to me Tis 
> fourfold in my supreme delight And three fold in soft Beulahs night And 
> twofold Always. May God us keep From Single vision & Newtons sleep."
> 
> — Blake, Letter to Thomas Butt, 22 November 1802. Quoted in Geoffrey Keynes 
> (ed.), The Letters of William Blake(1956)