Subject: Scholarly discussion of the music of John Cage.
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- From: "hans w. koch" <>
- To: peter kotik <>
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- Subject: [silence] Re: looking for the original text of a cage quote
- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 00:05:35 +0200
please don´t shoot the messenger (or editor in this case).
just trying to tidy up the translation of someones text done by somebody else.
hans
> Am 06.04.2016 um 23:37 schrieb Petr Kotik
> <>:
>
> Don’t you have anything better to do than going over quotes that had and
> have no relevance?
> Does anyone wants to be quoted, anything, anytime, out of context etc.?
> PK
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 5:33 PM, hans w. koch
> <>
> wrote:
>
>> dear silencers,
>>
>> in a german text about the german soundart event brueckenmusik
>> (www.brueckenmusik.de), the author quotes cage from a conversation with
>> c.h. waddington in 1972.
>> the german version runs like: „Wenn Musik Umweltgeräusche zulassen kann,
>> ohne davon beeinträchtigt zu werden, so handelt es sich um moderne Musik.
>> Wenn, wie bei einer Kom- position von Beethoven, ein schreiendes Baby oder
>> ein hustender Gast die Zuhörer störend beeinflusst, dann wissen wir, dass
>> es keine moderne Musik ist.“
>>
>> which in english is something like: “If music can allow environmental
>> noises without being disturbed by them, then it is modern music.
>> If, with a composition by Beethoven, a crying baby or a coughing member of
>> the audience influence the listeners in a disturbing way, then we know
>> that it is not modern music.”
>>
>> now, since the publication is meant to be german/english, it doesn´t make
>> much sense to retranslate that quote into english.
>> i ´d be extremely grateful, if someone could give me the correct english
>> wording.
>>
>> thank you in advance
>>
>> hans w. koch
>>
>>
>>
>
- [silence] looking for the original text of a cage quote, hans w. koch, 04/06/2016
- [silence] Re: looking for the original text of a cage quote, Petr Kotik, 04/06/2016
- [silence] Re: looking for the original text of a cage quote, hans w. koch, 04/06/2016
- [silence] Re: looking for the original text of a cage quote, Rob Haskins, 04/06/2016
- [silence] Re: looking for the original text of a cage quote, Joseph Zitt, 04/06/2016
- [silence] Re: looking for the original text of a cage quote, hans w. koch, 04/07/2016
- [silence] Re: Re: looking for the original text of a cage quote, Rod Stasick, 04/16/2016
- [silence] Re: looking for the original text of a cage quote, Petr Kotik, 04/06/2016
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