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- From: simon reynell <>
- To: Simon Roy Christensen <>
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- Subject: [silence] Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation
- Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:08:19 +0000 (GMT)
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I know and like all the examples you cite, but there are lots of others. In fact nature-based music of one kind or another is now a pretty crowded field. There are dozens of people producing pieces from field recordings (with various degrees of editing / manipulation) that use natural sounds as their source (some of the best-known examples can be found on the Touch label, people such as Chris Watson, BJ Nilsen and Toshiya Tsunoda).
And then there are several very interesting musicians using natural phenomena in various other interesting ways: in my opinion it's particularly worth checking out Jeph Jerman (http://www.jerman.littleenjoyer.com/) and Patrick Farmer (who released a beautiful disc called Apis Mellifera from gently transformed recordings of honey bees). The latter runs a web label called 'compost and height' which has free downloads of several free eco- / natural-based musical constructions: compostandheight.blogspot.com
And several works by the US-based composer Michael Pisaro are also relevant, I think, in particular recent works such as July Mountain, Fields Have Ears and A Wave and Waves, all of which in varying ways use natural phenomena as the basis of their composition.
And going further back both Christian Wolff and Cornelius Cardew used stones as sound source in works from the 1960's and 70's.
I can pass on contact details for most of the above-mentioned if you are interested.
best wishes
Simon Reynell
70 High Storrs Road, Sheffield, S11 7LE, UK
From: Simon Roy Christensen <>
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Sent: Thu, 3 June, 2010 0:14:14
Subject: [silence] music and/including nature in its manner of operation
hello hello
I hope this is not too off topic, but I'm about to write a music-historical paper/essay on music including nature, or maybe rather the acting of nature. Here I'm thinking of examples like some of Max Eastley's sound sculptures, Paul Panhuysen and Céleste Boursier-Mougenot use of birds, John Cage's "Atlas Eclipticalis" or the sounds of fungi and plants made audible by Michael Prime, for instance. Some of it probably helped along its way due to Cage's renowned remark of having an art 'imitating nature in its manner of operation'. But maybe there are even pre-Cage examples also?
I was thinking that this might be a good place to ask if any of you can recommend artists, works, literature or something else that spring to mind, which might have some kind of relevance to this - it would be very nice to hear!
thank you,
simon
- [silence] music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Simon Roy Christensen, 06/02/2010
- [silence] Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Rob Haskins, 06/02/2010
- [silence] Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, simon reynell, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Graham Urquhart, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Stefano Pocci, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Caleb Deupree, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, doherty, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Guy De Bievre, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Guy De Bievre, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: David Tudor's 'Rainforest', Matt Rogalsky, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Nicolás Carrasco, 06/03/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, David Badagnani, 06/04/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Graham Urquhart, 06/05/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, David Badagnani, 06/04/2010
- [silence] Re: Re: music and/including nature in its manner of operation, Graham Urquhart, 06/03/2010
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