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["Juliette Muellner" <>]

These coasters are not good at all in my opinion-they only test for certain 
combinations that could be GHB.  Additionally, after learning from people 
that work in the forensic labs that there are endless combinations and 
strands that are being created by users, these really don't do much, but give 
a false sense of security.  Finally, perpetrators are using so many different 
combinations of drugs to inapacitate survivors now so that coasters don't do 
much-

take what you will-

juliette

Juliette Muellner, Program Director
University of South Carolina
Sexual Health & Violence Prevention
Health & Wellness Programs
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Columbia, SC 29208

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>>> "Ross A Wantland" 
>>> <>
>>>  09/26/05 10:53 AM >>>
Hey y'all,
  I remember some discussion about the drink coasters some time back.
These coasters were supposed to only measure GHB, but I believe that
some of them were found to be hoaxes. I did some reading on the drink
detective, which seems like it is actually scientifically based and
seems to have the proof to show that it works (and more importantly -
when it works). You can read about it at
http://www.drinkdetective.com/science/DDtechnicalinsert.pdf ;
  But I think that offering items like this to our campuses raises some
deeper ethical questions. Is it useful to do this? Does it create a
false sense of security when alcohol (which the Drink Detective does NOT
test for) is the most widely used date rape drug? Are we simply throwing
up our hands in the face of drug-facilitated rape, and putting the
responsibility of the victim once again? 
  And I also wonder why we don't have many conversations about how the
same attitudes around alcohol correlate to the attitudes of men who use
date rape drugs. What would it look like if we were to interrogate WHY
men use these, HOW their peers react when they find out, and WHAT would
deter them from this option? Or should we prepare for the inevitable? 
  I believe that the Drink Detective is the best thing I've seen so far,
but how messed up is it for us to give all women (or women & men) on our
campuses these items to make them test for drugs in their drinks? Is it
actually beneficial/helpful for us to do it? I don't know. What do other
folks think?

Peace,
Ross

_____________________________________
Ross A. Wantland
Coordinator of Sexual Assault Education
300 Student Services Bldg. (MC-306)
610 E. John St.
Champaign, IL 61820
217-333-3137

-----Original Message-----
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 On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Mohon
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:25 AM
To: 

Subject: Drink Detective inquiries

Greetings!

Does anyone know anything about the product Drink Detective that 
apparently tests for all drugs associated with Drug Facilitated Sexual 
Assault including GHB?  I would like any feedback related to this. 
Please direct all emails to 


Thanks so much!

-- 
Elizabeth G. Mohon
Sexual Assault Services Coordinator
Staff Counselor

Counseling and Testing Center
Western Kentucky University
1906 College Heights Blvd. #11024
Bowling Green, KY  42101-1024
270/745-3159


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