Scholarly discussion of the music of John Cage.

[Ed Crooks <>]

Dear Philip,

In relation to the Freeman Etudes and Cage's later use of notation, there are several passages that might be what you are remembering in Kostelanetz's Conversing with Cage (2nd ed., Routledge, 2003), pp. 95-99, and in William Duckworth's interview with Cage in John Cage at Seventy-Five (edited by Duckworth and Richard Fleming, Bucknell University Press, 1989), pp. 24-25. Both might be worth checking.

all the best,

Ed

 

Dr Edward Crooks,

https://york.academia.edu/EdCrooks 

On Tuesday, 1 July 2014, 22:33, Philip Thomas <> wrote:

Yes, that's for sure Chris.

I think the context may be have been Cage's return to more 'music' notations in the 1970s and 80s, perhaps with reference to one of the sets of Etudes. I think the comment was suggesting that more fixed notations work better for some people and less fixed for others.

Or this all may have been a dream...!

 

 

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From: Christopher Shultis []
Sent: 01 July 2014 20:39
To: Philip Thomas;
Subject: RE: quote

​Dear Philip,

Maybe someone else knows otherwise, but I can't really think of an instance where Cage said anything directly like that. I do know that in his "Defense of Satie" he talks about "law elements" and "freedom elements." This concerns how he wrote his music up to the late 1940s and prior to his use of chance. 

One thing for sure: Cage knew that freedom and rules were both needed, and connected, at least when it came to how he wrote music.

Best wishes,

chris 

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From: Philip Thomas <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:49 AM
To:
Subject: [silence] quote

 

Hi Silencers

 

I'm tearing my hair out trying to find where it is that Cage said/wrote something along the lines of 'Some people need rules, others need freedom'. Can anyone help?

And whilst I'm e-mailing, slightly off-topic, but some of you might like to know that my triple-CD of Christian Wolff's early and recent piano music has come out this week on sub rosa http://www.subrosa.net/en/catalogue/unclassical/christian-wolff.html

 

Looking forward to hearing from any of you

Philip

 

 

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