Subject: Scholarly discussion of the music of John Cage.
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- From: Rob Haskins <>
- To: Carl Heppenstall <>
- Cc: Dionysis Boukouvalas <>, Silence <>
- Subject: [silence] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator
- Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:08:38 -0400
Actually, they aren't true mesostics even in Cage's definition. According to Cage's practice, he distinguished between 50% and 100% meesostics. In the 100% kind, neither letter 2 successive letters in the mesostic string can appear in the uncapitalized letters between them. In the 50% kind, the first letter can't appear. The mesostic generator doesn't make this distinction. I'm sure that's what Rod's referring to.
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Carl Heppenstall <> wrote:
One thing that makes it less engaging is inability to find a website that is purely textual, pure source and does not have all of the other obtrusive Internet phrasing.Best,CarlSent from my Bicycle.
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:18 PM, "Dionysis Boukouvalas" <> wrote:
They sure look like mesostics to me. Why are you saying that they are not mesostics? I'm guessing you are referring to the mesostic rules here?
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:52:26 -0500
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Subject: [silence] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generatorIt's a "mesostic generator" that doesn't generate mesostics.ஐ---Now playing: Trembling Bells - Adieu, Englandhttp://stasick.orgOn apr 9, 2556 BE, at 09:46, Dionysis Boukouvalas wrote:Because I don't want to search it now, what exactly is the problem?
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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:11:48 -0500
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Subject: [silence] Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generatorWell, the idea is nice - and the look is attractive,but a pretty car that doesn't work properly ispretty much useless no matter what kinds ofvariables or, as the software creator states,"extended features" and "additional options"it has. I may drop the fellow a line to have himkeep me up-to-date on when he gets it working.best,︣---Now playing: Eliane Radigue & Charles Curtis - NaldjorlakOn apr 9, 2556 BE, at 06:43, Dionysis Boukouvalas wrote:Still nice though :-)
Well of course, a lot of variables should be available to the user, as to the exact nature of the mesostics produced.
Let's hope they get there!
(Let us know when they will.)
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 22:29:50 -0500
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Subject: [silence] Re: Re: Mesostic generatorThe only real problem with the examples shownis that they are not mesostics, so the softwareneeds to work. Trying John's name with theCNN setting (and the Louis Goldstein example)still brings up non-mesostics as well apparently.ROn apr 7, 2556 BE, at 10:02, Rob Haskins wrote:In honor of Roger Ebert, here are 10 mesostics on his name
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Rob Haskins, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Music, College of Liberal Arts
University of New Hampshire
M-105, Paul Creative Arts Center
30 Academic Way
Durham, NH 03824
603-862-3987 (office)
603-862-3155 (fax)
<http://unh.edu/music/>
<http://robhaskins.net>
<http://musicandmiscellaneous.blogspot.com/>
Rob Haskins, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Music, College of Liberal Arts
University of New Hampshire
M-105, Paul Creative Arts Center
30 Academic Way
Durham, NH 03824
603-862-3987 (office)
603-862-3155 (fax)
<http://unh.edu/music/>
<http://robhaskins.net>
<http://musicandmiscellaneous.blogspot.com/>
- [silence] RE: Re: RE: Re: Mesostic generator, (continued)
- [silence] RE: Re: RE: Re: Mesostic generator, Dionysis Boukouvalas, 04/07/2013
- [silence] Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/07/2013
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rob Haskins, 04/07/2013
- [silence] RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Dionysis Boukouvalas, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/09/2013
- [silence] RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Dionysis Boukouvalas, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/09/2013
- [silence] RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Dionysis Boukouvalas, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Carl Heppenstall, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Carl Heppenstall, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rob Haskins, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rob Haskins, 04/09/2013
- [silence] RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Dionysis Boukouvalas, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Carl Heppenstall, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/09/2013
- [silence] RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Dionysis Boukouvalas, 04/09/2013
- [silence] RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Dionysis Boukouvalas, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Kristofer Svensson, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/09/2013
- [silence] RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Dionysis Boukouvalas, 04/09/2013
- [silence] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Mesostic generator, Rod Stasick, 04/09/2013
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