Scholarly discussion of the music of John Cage.

[Vitor Rua <>]

oh... I didn´t know that... I only saw what he said... but probably is like you said... after all he said many things that he said it´s him but it isn´t... when he said that hearing heoirca or pastoral of beethoven its always the same and sounds of trasfic always different it was russolo who said more or less that... and the definition of music that its atribute to varèse and cage repeat that music is organized sound is form russolo again... best and thanks for the info... vítor

On Aug 30, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Rob Haskins wrote:

It might be that Cage said that on the documentary, Vitor, but Andrew's right—the person who actually said it was Shizuko Yamamoto, in response to a question Cage asked on whether he had to be strict about observing the macrobiotic diet. Cage can be forgiven for forgetting who said what in 1990 (which is when I believe that documentary was made).

Rob

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:19 PM, <> wrote:

I have not seen the Greenaway doc in years so I don't recall the scene. But it might have been a slip on his part, or he was saying Shizuko.

In any case, I heard the story several times over the years, and the story is about Yamamoto.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Vitor Rua <>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:48:15
To: Andrew Culver<>
Cc: john saylor<>; Silence<>
Subject: [silence] Re: Re: Re: Hmmmm

hello,

he said (John cage) that it was suzuki his master that said:  "when
you're with friends, you can have
>
>> a potato." it´s on the peter greenway documentary...

best
vítor rua


On Aug 30, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Andrew Culver wrote:

> Hi John
>
> I believe the potato quote paraphrases Shizuko Yamamoto
>
> On 29-Aug-11, at 10:47 AM, john saylor wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 19:05, Andrew Culver <
>> > wrote:
>>> Birth of Jesse James (possibly the most famous outlaw in American
>>> history):
>>> Sept. 5, 1847
>>> 65 years to the day before our friend.
>>
>> and 65 after:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazr_Mohammed
>>
>> and ...
>>
>> --
>> \js [http://or8.net/~johns/] : "when you're with friends, you can
>> have
>> a potato." -j.cage paraphrasing y.ono
>>
>

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