Scholarly discussion of the music of John Cage.

[Stefano Pocci <>]

Hi all,

I hesitated a bit before writing this because I also believe that the best answer is... silence, as the name of this mailing list reads.
I am talking of a non-Cagean silence, because filled with intention (to ignore the book mentioned at the start).

However, Rod last comment made me rethink my original intention because I unfortunately believe that we are already living in the world described by his last words, that is, a world caring only for entertainment, not culture.

Let's just keep this community pushing in the direction of challenging our brains and the habits that we are at times forced to deal with. I think that's the best we can do.

Have a nice day,

Stefano

Il giorno lun 20 mag 2024 alle ore 09:41 Rod <> ha scritto:

Yes, but remember that the people who "accept" this are people who live in their own special reality that we don't need to be drawn into. In the final analysis, it just may be a bad book wrapped in bad intentions that's better off being ignored. I think *that* would be the best approach overall. I don't see it reaching epidemic proportions until we start getting huge numbers of people actually interested in culture instead of entertainment.

R

On May 20, 2024, at 01:23, Ralph Lichtensteiger <> wrote:

Dear Rod,

I agree. All this crap is used from the right-wing press/web to discredit progressive and enligthened thinking. Of course, Sora's book is complete nonsense, but also outrageousness and 100% fake news. That's why it shouldn't just be accepted. The content of this book is a slander.

Best

R Li

Am Sonntag, 19. Mai 2024 schrieb Rod Stasick <>:

Notorious for extreme right-wing opinion.

Here’s, for example, an ongoing dispute between Achgut and NewsGuard

who are known to investigate misinformation on the web.

https://www.newsguardtech.com/feedback/publisher/achgut-com/

This example has to do with Achgut lying about vaccines.

At the end of the long back-and-forth, you’ll see that Achgut

gives the same answer that, for example, Fox ‘news” does in America:

"To clarify, we do not claim in our “Mediensteckbriefs” (“Media Profile”, I believe - 

Ralph can say otherwise) or elsewhere that Achgut.com specifically presents itself as a news site."

In short, fuck ‘em.

Rod

On May 19, 2024, at 13:31, Dionysis Boukouvalas <> wrote:

I immediately guessed Sora was European. In need of protecting the European culture.

After a little search, I found out - no surprise - he is a European "avant-garde" composer.

I use quotations because this has become something of a brand name in my eyes. It is ironic how conservative and self-serving European "avant-garde" has become after 1990. Will it ever end?

Thank god for John…

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