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  • From: "Ian Pace" <>
  • To: <>, "Daniel Wolf" <>
  • Subject: [silence] Re: Re: Cage's prejudices
  • Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:22:40 +0100
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Cage's adoption of Mao was relatively short-lived, and not, I believe, especially fundamental to his thought. In the interview between David Patterson and Christian Wolff which touches on this subject (Christian Wolff and David Patterson, ‘Cage and Beyond: An Annotated Interview with Christian Wolff’, Perspectives of New Music Vol. 32 No. 2 (Summer 1994), pp. 54-87 - a really excellent text in the context of this discussion), Wolff suggests that Cage may have moved away from this strain either as a result of becoming aware of the atrocities entailed in the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, or as a reaction to seeing one appropriation of this thought used to denounce his own work in Cardew's Stockhausen Serves Imperialism. This latter interpretation seems likely in light of Cage's comments in his 1974 essay on 'The Future of Music' (off hand, without sources to hand, I am not sure of the exact dates within 1974 when the Cardew and Cage texts were published; whether or not Cage had yet been able to read Cardew's diatribe, he certainly was aware of the shift in Cardew's activities, as this text shows):

'Some politically concerned composers do not so much exemplify in their work the desired changes in society as they use their music as propaganda for such changes or as criticism of the society as it continues insufficiently changed.' (Empty Words, p. 183)

He goes on specifically to mention Cardew, arguing that 'Sounds by themselves do not put messages across' and suggesting that both in Russian and China, and in the work of Cardew and the Scratch Orchestra, they have to resort to nineteenth-century idioms if not using words, and applying the pronouncements on art by Mao 'as literally and legalistically as they can', whilst comparing this (by implication unfavourably) with the more original music of Rzewski and Wolff.

I am inclined to see Cage's short-lived flirtation with Mao as an extension of his predilection towards East Asian mystical 'gurus', with all that entails in terms of orientalism, etc. (an issue touched upon in the context of 'experimental music' in various sources, in particular Alex J. Lubet's, 'Indeterminate Origins: A Cultural Theory of American Experimental Music', in James R. Heintze (ed), Perspectives on American Music since 1950 (New York: General Music Publishing Co, 1999), pp. 95-140, earlier in Chou Wên-Chung's 'Asian Concepts and Twentieth-Century Western Composers', The Musical Quarterly, Vol. 57, No. 2 (Apr., 1971), pp. 211-229, and also in a book I haven't yet read but mean to soon, Christian Utz's Neue Musik und Interkulturalität. Von John Cage bis Tan Dun, Beihefte zum Archiv für Musikwissenschaft, Band 51, (Stuttgart: Franz Steiner Verlag, 2002)). Cardew, on the other hand, at this time took many of his cues from the Communist Party of England (Marxist-Leninist), who were fundamentally opposed to any criticism whatsoever of Stalin, and like other 'anti-revisionists', held a particular disdain for Khrushchev's secret 1956 speech acknowledging some of the crimes of Stalin and critiquing the cult of personality (which was if anything even more pronounced around Mao). John Tilbury argues that Cardew saw Maoism as upholding the principles that had been jettisoned by all the others after Khrushchev's denunciation of Stalin at 20th Party Congress in Jan 1956 (John Tilbury, Cornelius Cardew (1936-1981): A Life Unfinished (Harlow: Copula, 2008), p. 557). Whilst certainly this line of thought was not sympathetic to the Soviet Union of the time (for not being Stalinist enough!), it was for fundamentally different reasons to those cited by Daniel in the context of the US left.

Information on Mao's China was in short supply in the early 1970s - it is not until around 1973 or 1974, I think, that Amnesty International started to produce their first reports from the country, though by around 1976-78 their reports give little doubt that this was a dictatorial state with many human rights abuses (many of these reports are available online). Members of Tel Quel visited China in 1974 (leading to the publication of atrocious works like Julie Kristeva's 'On Chinese Women'), but it appears as if they were wilfully blind to anything they did not want to see. Though others did identify the nature of the Maoist regime quite clearly - for example Tony Cliff (founder of the International Socialists, later the Socialist Workers' Party, in the UK) in his 1957 essay 'Mao and Stalinism' - http://www.marxists.org/archive/cliff/works/1957/04/maostalin.htm - written before either the GLF or the Cultural Revolution. (For a wider consideration of Maoism in the West, I'd recommend the appropriate sections in Robert J. Alexander's book Maoism in the Developed World (Westport, CA & London: Praeger, 2001), which has some information (albeit rather brief) on all the various Maoist parties which sprung up and their relationship to other left organisations and thinking).

Whilst many of Cage's statements from his 'Maoist' phase simply read as rather naive (as for example when he compares Mao with Gandhi or Martin Luther King, in the 1972 interview with Hans G Helms, cited in Kostelanetz, Conversing with Cage, second edition, (New York and London: Routledge, 2003), p. 282) there is one which I continue find a little chilling:

'(Cf. Mao Tse-tung: “What should our policy be towards non-Marxist ideas? As far as unmistakeable counter-revolutionaries and saboteurs of the socialist cause are concerned, the matter is easy: we simply deprive them of their freedom of speech”)' (Foreword to M, p. xv)

He advocates this approach with respect to the members of an orchestra, who he wishes to make into 'an instance of an improved society'; this to me does indeed have totalitarian overtones.

Best,
Ian



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From: "Daniel Wolf" 
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Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:27 AM
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Subject: [silence] Re: Cage's prejudices

Please consider the environments in which Cage had or exercised actual
power.

First of all the Cunningham Company, where he held various positions in
addition to music director, including manager and Board President.
Artistic leadership was in the hands of Cunningham. I imagine that Cage,
as music director, could have, in principle, asserted the right to compose
all the music used, and I am certain that he played an essential role in
the selection of composers, but the practice was for Cunningham alone to
formally make the request for music and it was requested of a large roster
of composers.  In this, the record was decidedly mixed, but typical of the
new music scene: for all the musical diversity, there were too few women
and too few minorities represented.* There is no evidence of negative
discrimination in the selection of music, but there is certainly a
discussion to be had about a question of discrimination within the new
music scene at large, and within which context it would be useful to
discuss the question of whether Cage's clear aesthetic position of an
non-assertion of personal expression was connected to this passive
discrimination. (Certainly, there is nothing in Babbittonian 12-tone
technique that should lead to a particular racial or sexual profile of
composers using the technique, but one finds a very similar demographic
among 12-tone composers.)

Most concretely, as a manager of the institution, working constantly in
financial crisis mode, Cage was responsible for an employment practice
that was effectively progressive, hiring women and minorities in
management and labor positions without discrimination.  And, it is not to
be discounted, although often perilously close to folding, the Cunningham
Company consistently found ways to optimize income and benefits within the
prevailing labor system.

A more subtle environment in which Cage operated was within the community
of composers at large. Here, he had and executed influence and could be
persuasive (as apparently was the case with the Journal *(Asterisk) which
ceased publication after one (iirc) issue which had an interview with Cage
which had not been sent to him in advance for editing as agreed;
similarly, he withheld endorsement of Geoffrey Barnard's little book
Conversations without Feldman), but it is important to keep in mind that
his position within the larger community was always marginal, in that his
opinion might have a negative value.  He wrote many letters of
recommendation, but an LOC from Cage was definitely not always useful to
someone seeking a job at a musically unadventurous institution!

Cage has been criticized for operating within a restrictive network of
composers but again this is systematic of new music in general and one
suspects is inevitable within any such self-selecting community, or social
network as the phrase now goes.  He was not above using his taste and
personal experiences to make negative recommendations as well, famously in
his critique of Julius Eastman, or in the case of a Cardew memorial, which
Cage signed to support but, because of his personal hurt at Cardew's
critique, refused to suppport financially.  He coudl also be very
judicious about the use of his name, as when one younger composer was
arrested on a drugs charge, Cage helped to organize a petition on the
composer's behalf, helping to obtain Aaron Copland's signature, but
refrained from signing himself on the advice that his signature would do
more harm than good, should anyone reading the petition recognize his
name! (One thing that I find surprising, with so much biographical
research on Cage going on, is that it appears no one has made a FOIA
request for Cage's FBI and other government files.  As a public persona
who identified himself as an anarchist who traveled frequently abroad,
including into Soviet-block countries, I would be surprised if he didn't
have a paper trail there.)  I believe it was Olivia Matthis who reported
here that the composer Lucia Dlugoszewski felt that Feldman had intervened
and kept her out of the Cage-Feldman-Wolff-Brown group;  I suspect,
however, that her aesthetic closeness to Varese and her personal and
professional relationship to Erick Hawkins — a competitor to Cunningham,
after all — were more critical factors.

The only anarchist joke goes:

Q: How many voters does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. Because voting doesn't change anything.

As to real politics, Cage was inconsistent about voting, usually
refraining but I believe that he made exceptions depending on the
immediate situation.  IIRC, he took the opportunity to vote against
Reagan's reelection, as he had watched the Iran-Contra proceedings on TV
with considerable fascination and shock.  Cage refrained from partisan
politics, but he was a card-carrying member of several organizations
involved with environmental protection.

Finally, the question of Cage's temporary enthusiasms for Mao's Cultural
Revolution-era China should be addressed.   We have all the benefits of
hindsight in recognizing how misplaced this enthusiasm was.  However, it
has to be put in the context of how unknown China was at that juncture.
Trade and communications to and from China were, for an American, nil.
The US has relations only with Taiwan.  With the exception of the
Soviet-supported CPUSA, there was more or less universal recognition on
the radical left in the US that the Soviet Union had been a disaster**,
particularly on issues of human rights, but increasingly in terms of
economic success, cultural policy, and basis democracy and the measure of
the catastrophes of WWII and the Gulag system were increasingly apparent,
thus there was a tremendous eagerness on the left for evidence of a
functioning socialist state.  Suddenly, after two decade of radio silence
from China, a very few, very selective reports (most prominently, perhaps,
that of Jan Myrdahl, later an apologist for the massacre at Tiananmen
Square) appear describing Mao's apparent successes in creating, if not a
utopia, at least a China that was said to be feeding, clothing, housing
its people, providing health care, educating peasants, and creating
spectacular cultural events (i.e. stadium shows and revolutionary opera).
I never had the opportunity to ask Cage about China or his refusal to
withdraw his earlier statements about China, but I did speak with
N.O.Brown about it.  As recorded in the _Diaries_, Brown was someone who
pointed Cage towards China and Mao, and when I asked him about it, he
simply said, "we didn't know enough, we didn't know anything about
China."  As to Cage's reluctance to indicate a revision of his opinion of
China, I can only speculate: (1) Cage did not revise his works, musical or
otherwise; each score or article is left as an accurate record of its
moment. Once he figured out how a piece was to be made, he did not revisit
chance operations to optimize results. (That said, Walter Zimmermann has
found at least one example of possible "cherry picking" of results.) (2) A
possible dislike for the constant revisionism and self criticism on the
left.  Instead of going on to new work, clearly asserting new concerns,
lessons learned etc., in the new work, the left's (particularly
Marxist-Leninist left's) obsession with self-criticism and theorizing can
definitely test one's patience.  (As David Graeber points out, anarchism
(as opposed to Marxism, the only social movement invented by a PhD) has
little affinity for the University and its style of formal discourse;
anarchy is, untimately, pragmatic and happens, spontaneously, all the
time, every time people initiate forms of organization or interaction
neither foreseen nor supervised by some state; leaving a proper paper
trail is, for anarchists, beside the point.) (3) Once burned, best leave
it alone.  Once committed in print to positions that have become untenable
because they were based on wrong or insufficient information, it is an
entirely reasonable proposition to simply let the topic drop, which Cage
did with regard to China.


Daniel Wolf
composer
Frankfurt


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* Cage's record of working with women and minority artists dates as early
as his collaboration with the African-Amertican dancer Syvilla Fort on
_Bacchanale_, the first prepared piano piece, in 1940.
** Although Cage toured in some East Block countries, his official status
in the Soviet Union — as reflected in his Great Soviet Encyclopedia entry
— was not that of a welcome western personality and he did not travel to
Russia until the Gorbachev era.
In a conversation with Robert Duncan some 30 years ago, Mr Duncan
indicated to me that a political identification with anarchism as a young
adult was not unusual for artists and gay men like himself for whom the
authoritarian Soviet system would have made their lives and work
impossible.  Although Richard Kostelanetz has made a case for Cage as an
"old leftie", although I am certain that Cage's anarchism, gnosticism and
artistic practice form a relatively coherent unit, I am altogether
uncertain as to when Cage's identification with anarchism came into form
or as to whether this was made in the context of any relationship, postive
or negative, to to the so called real exisitng socialist states.





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