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- From: Rina Vaishnav Rhyne <>
- To: Brett Sokolow <>
- Cc: "Shaffer, Jyl (shaffej2)" <>, "Torres-Zickler, Alina M." <>, "" <>
- Subject: Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions
- Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 10:30:22 -0500
With mutual NCOs, I would make sure the victim knows this is standard protocol and in no way is saying she/he is at fault - how they feel about it is more important than it actual being in place.
The best thing may be to have the NCO goes one way but if the respondent in the case brings forward any sort of communication post-NCO by the complainant that is deemed harassing, then they can request a NCO towards the complainant. Also, even with no mutual NCO, you can say to the complainant that they should not be contacting the respondent.
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OCR has stated that no contact orders are to protect the victim and should not be issued mutually on an automatic basis. If they are issued mutually, they should be tailored (skewed restrictions) so as to reduce the potential for violation by the victim.Regards,
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From: "Shaffer, Jyl (shaffej2)" <>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:57 AM
To: "Torres-Zickler, Alina M." <>, "" <>
Subject: RE: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions
Alina,
Typically I do not issue mutual no contact orders until I’ve spoken with the alleged victim first. Just like civil protective orders, campus-based mutual no contact orders can increase the lethality of the situation, create a chilling effect for reporting/moving forward in the process, etc. I can’t say there’s not a circumstance where I wouldn’t issue one without talking to the alleged victim first, but in 5 years I haven’t done that once.
Also, we recognize that sometimes violations happen. We take notices of violations on a case-by-case basis and, if there wasn’t a threat/act of violence and if neither party says they were harmed by the violation, we will often issue a warning. We do tell them, though, that they only get one warning. If I have an alleged victim who is violating the order, that’s an important moment to find out if what they want the University to do has changed, if there is pressure on them, etc.
Also, suspension may be an unreasonable sanction for some kinds of violations, particularly since much of the violations I see happen electronically, so suspension will likely just give the person more time to make contact.
Hope that helps,
Jyl Shaffer
Title IX Coordinator
University of Cincinnati
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From: Torres-Zickler, Alina M. []
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:50 AM
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Subject: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions
Hello all – No Contact Directives are often requested by complainants on our campus and we use them frequently without much issue (they are applied to no contact from either the accused or the complainant). Recently we have seen patterns with complainants of dating violence ( as well as other types of sexual misconduct) that because of the complicated nature of the relationship the complainant will send an email or a text message after the No Contact Directive is in place.
There are those on my campus that think any violation of the No Contact Directive should result in immediate suspension, even for the complainant. My argument is that by having a trauma informed lens we need to think twice about the chilling effect this could create and that the resulting sanction of violating the No Contact Directive should fit the level of the violation. Did they send a “hello” text or did they threaten violence?
I’m being told a violation is violation and both parties should be immediately suspended if they violate the directive- even for a single text message or email. I believe the violation should be evaluated by severity of the violation.
Anyone have this experience with No Contact Directives? How have you handled violations?
-Alina
Alina Torres-Zickler
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Office of Social Equity
West Chester University
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- Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Torres-Zickler, Alina M., 02/05/2016
- RE: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Shaffer, Jyl (shaffej2), 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Brett Sokolow, 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Rina Vaishnav Rhyne, 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Brett Sokolow, 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Jen Luettel Schweer, 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Brett Sokolow, 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Jen Luettel Schweer, 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Brett Sokolow, 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Rina Vaishnav Rhyne, 02/05/2016
- Re: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Brett Sokolow, 02/05/2016
- RE: Experience with No Contact Directives and Sanctions, Shaffer, Jyl (shaffej2), 02/05/2016
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