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- From: "Douglas E. Fierberg" <>
- To: LB Klein <>, "Lauren R. Gibson" <>, "" <>
- Subject: RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App
- Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 17:21:14 +0000
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Our team is happy to write him on your (or anyone else’s) behalf, e.g. classic lawyer’s letter, insisting that he back off and comply with the law. Should do the trick. Obviously, at no charge . . . . .
J Just let me know. All the best. Doug Douglas Fierberg Bode & Fierberg, LLP 1150 Connecticut Avenue, N.W., Ninth Floor Washington, D.C. 20036 202-828-4100 202-828-4130 (fax) DCLawFirm (Skype) www.bode.com www.schoolviolencelaw.com From: LB Klein [mailto:]
Dear Colleagues, I hope that this messages finds you well. I'm sending this message to this listserv on the urging of several colleagues with whom I shared my recent experiences. I have been receiving some persistent and uncomfortable communications from Michael Lissack at WeConsent, an "affirmative consent app." These began after I replied to repeated unsolicited
emails to me from his company. I asked to be removed from the list and expressed concern about their product. I then began to receive multiple replies from different addresses that disparaged and taunted me. These communications have escalated recently and
have included phrases such as "big brother is watching you," based on him monitoring read receipts on the emails. When he found out I had informed colleagues he was positioning their videos in his marketing materials out of context and without permission
(and they asked they be taken down), he again escalated. As I told Lissack directly, this course of conduct and the content of messages is deeply disturbing, particularly from an organization marketing a consent app. This is, of course, beyond
the app, its marketing, and its advertising already being problematic. Other colleagues have mentioned concern about receiving unwanted and persistent communication from Lissack. I was contacted by a media outlet about my experiences with Lissack and his company,
but I would likely only want to go public with this in solidarity with others. Due to his tactics, I have truly been torn between sharing this publicly for some level of accountability and not wanting to be further targeted by him or to give him further attention. This
has brought up the question for me of what our responsibility is within our field to hold people like this accountable and, if so, how. I welcome any thoughts, suggestions, or shared experience on or off list. My best, LB LB Klein, MSW |
Educator & Consultant based in Atlanta, GA Graduate Student,
Program on Gender-Based Violence, University of Colorado Denver School of Public Affairs Lead Trainer, Prevention Innovations Research Center, University of New Hampshire
From: Thanks for sending this out. Our Director of Athletics forwarded me an email from their sales team advertising it earlier and I told them I’d look into it. Then this conversation thread popped
up-good timing! Their video on their website says that it’s only “$5 and no scandals”. They are definitely playing up the make sure none of your athletes get in trouble and kicked out of school. I will be sending him an email back saying I would not recommend
this program. Lauren R. Gibson Director of Wellness & Prevention Education Sexual Assault Response Coordinator Washington College Caroline House 410-778-7277 “We rise by lifting others.”-Robert Ingersoll From:
<Caramagno>, Denise <> I am disturbed!
I did think the interviewer took an appropriate approach. She challenged him. Denise
Denise Caramagno, M.A., M.A., MFTi Confidential CARE Advocate, Office of Diversity and Outreach University of California at San Francisco Tel: (415) 502-8802 Cell: (415) 640-9080 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named above. Distribution,
reproduction, or any other use of this transmission by any party other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From: LB Klein []
Is anyone else truly disturbed by this product as well as the Chronicle reporting on it? Here are some highlights for why I'm concerned this is circulating: 1) "Most of these situations are about, let’s face it, people being sloppy with one another and deciding to engage in activities that have not been
fully discussed." This does not jive with what we know about perpetration of sexual assault. I'm concerned that someone without real knowledge of the nature and dynamics of sexual violence is marketing a product to allegedly prevent it. 2) Consent is not just about one "yes," it's about an ongoing series of yeses. Even if this were to be a remotely valid way to get consent from a partner before
initiating sex, anyone involved should be able to withdraw consent at any time. 3) This app and its developer don't seem to be interested in truly stopping sexual violence, holding perpetrators accountable, or supporting survivors. Concerned
about a scandal within your athletic team or insert-another-group-here? There's an app for that! Yikes. 4) The victim-blaming and misogynistic concept that women typically "cry rape" because their feelings about a sexual encounter change the next day is all over the
website for this app. This seems like more of a prevention of prosecution/accountability app for perpetrators, when perpetrators are already so rarely held accountable. Also, don't read the comments. LB Klein, MSW
| Educator & Consultant based in Atlanta, GA Graduate Student,
Program on Gender-Based Violence, University of Colorado Denver School of Public Affairs Lead Trainer, Prevention Innovations Research Center, University of New Hampshire
From:
FYI http://chronicle.com/article/When-It-Comes-to-Preventing/230823/?cid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en Carmen Hotvedt |
- Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, LB Klein, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Douglas E. Fierberg, 07/08/2015
- Re: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Hotvedt, Carmen, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Linda Pena, 07/08/2015
- Re: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Caramagno, Denise, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, LB Klein, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Morey, Patricia L, 07/08/2015
- Re: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Sheila Broderick, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, LB Klein, 07/08/2015
- Re: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Caramagno, Denise, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Chris Kilmartin (ckilmart), 07/08/2015
- Re: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Jen Przewoznik, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Megan Elizabeth Selheim, 07/08/2015
- Re: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Jen Przewoznik, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Storm, Rachel Lauren, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Linda Pena, 07/08/2015
- Re: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Hotvedt, Carmen, 07/08/2015
- RE: Follow up RE: Chronicle of Higher Ed Article: Sexual Assault App, Douglas E. Fierberg, 07/08/2015
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