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- From: Michelle Spradling <>
- To: Gillian Greensite <>
- Cc:
- Subject: Re: On-line versus Live, to Ms. Greensite
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:18:05 -0600
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Thank you, Gillian.
I first viewed the "nformd" module two years ago, and was myself horrified
by the Verbal Judo section and specifically the 3 "-ates." As both a
survivor of sexual assault in college, and more recently, a "professional"
in this work, I, quite frankly, wanted to regurgitate myself after seeing
that college women were advised to urinate, defecate or vomit on potential
perpetrators when all else fails.
As someone only four years removed from undergrad, it for one made me think
the creators were very far removed from the reality of a college
student's lifestyle. Prevention educators already struggle with this when
addressing alcohol, partying and hook-up culture. Defecation brings that
conflict to a whole new level.
Also, if anyone knows how to urinate, regurgitate or defecate on command, in
front of another person, in the midst of a trauma, let me know. (and yes, I
understand that this is supposed to occur BEFORE the assault, but if the
threat of a rape is imminent,you're in a traumatic situation). I find the
idea ludicrous. While I don't particularly care for most risk reduction
tactics, I could name about 20 other methods I would suggest to students if
I really felt a moral dilemma about arming them with options for fighting
back (whether violent or non-violent).
Also, as a survivor, when I hear the words "diffusing" and a "rape
situation" used in the same sentence, I feel very insulted.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Gillian Greensite
<>
wrote:
> Why is it that when women have a point of view it is "passion" ( even
> when based on 30 years experience in the rape prevention movement)
> and when men have a point of view ( based on far less experience) it
> is not trivialized by reducing it to an emotional state.
>
> I suggest you all check out the section on Verbal Judo in the
> "StudentSuccess" on-line module and decide for yourselves.
>
> Gillian
>
> Gillian Greensite
> UCSC Rape Prevention Education
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Michelle Spradling
Sexual Assault Interagency Council
Project Director
P.O. Box 18951
Denver, CO 80218
720-913-9284
www.denversaic.org
- Re: On-line versus Live, to Ms. Greensite, Steven Pearlman, 03/17/2010
- looking for global sexual violence stats, sspedit, 03/22/2010
- RE: looking for global sexual violence stats, Chad Sniffen, 03/22/2010
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: On-line versus Live, to Ms. Greensite, Gillian Greensite, 03/17/2010
- Re: On-line versus Live, to Ms. Greensite, Michelle Spradling, 03/17/2010
- RE: On-line versus Live, to Ms. Greensite, Rafi, Aline Jesus, 03/17/2010
- looking for global sexual violence stats, sspedit, 03/22/2010
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