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["Juliette Grimmett" <>]

Dear Gillian - thank you so much for this feedback.  I have received many 
supportive responses from people on this list.  It seems like these people 
have been hitting up campuses lately so now is the time to discuss this.  I 
have a 3 page report on my concerns with it, so if anyone is interested, 
please let me know and i will email it to you.
 
Gillian - was the information you are talking about regarding a decrease in 
learning about a sexual assault module or alcohol?  I believe it for sure...
 
thanks so much everyone!
juliette
 

Are you an NCSU student interested in being a Sexual & Relationship Violence 
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Juliette Grimmett, MPH
Rape Prevention Education Coordinator
NC State University
Women's Center
3120 Talley Student Center
Campus BOX 7306
Raleigh, NC 27695-7306
Office: (919) 513-3232
24 Hour Sexual Violence Hotline: (919)618-RAPE (7273)
Fax: (919) 515-1066
email: 

 ( http://www.ncsu.edu/womens_center ;) 
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>>> On 10/8/2009 at 1:41 PM, in message 
>>> <>,
>>>  Gillian Greensite 
>>> <>
>>>  wrote:
Dear Juliette,

How fortunate that you sent your posting right now!. UCSC is going  
full steam ahead to use this on-line program for next year, despite  
the fact that I and my peer educators have in the past two weeks  
delivered 12 dynamic, well-received, 90 minute mandatory  
presentations to new students. We still have two to go. I have not  
been consulted at all about the online program but I can attend the  
viewing next week when the company that markets this online resource  
will be coming to campus to promote it.

I pre-viewed the Sex Matters online program and agree with Juliette's  
summary of the problems with it. I'm against online resources in  
general since the image of a lone male with misogynist attitudes  
sitting in his dorm room yukking it up as he hurls insults at the  
screen, or perhaps has a few like-minded friends over to join him, is  
seriously problematic. Perhaps this explains the curious finding from  
the company that the attitudes of a sizable percentage of students  
( gender was omitted) actually worsened after taking the program. The  
company explains this by saying that those students probably  
increased their drinking over the same time span and that was the  
cause of the attitude decline. I find that rather implausible. A more  
plausible explanation might be that absent the context of good male  
role models, in a large group setting,  no real learning takes place  
in those at high risk for raping ( thank you Dr. Lisak) and in fact  
there is the distinct possibility that their attitudes harden,  
especially with an online resource that is unskilled in handling male  
defensiveness, something I am proud to claim as a success developed  
step by small step over the past 29 years. And our cmpus is poised to  
throw all that skill out of the window for a quick online fix.

So any and all comments will be helpful. And, that other online  
program N'Formed looks good at first but the "prevention" section is  
SO bad you'd think it was a spoof. Try the three


On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:04 AM, 

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> Hello all -
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> Have any of you seen this new portion of the alcohol EDU program?   
> I have tremendous concerns about the messages it sends.  Some folks  
> on campus are considering keeping this section and I am trying to  
> build a multi-faceted response as to why it is dangerous and to me  
> sends the opposite messages that we at the women's center and our  
> peer educators are teaching.  For example, I believe the module is  
> the following: victim-blaming, puts all responsibility to stop rape  
> on women, not promoting a culture change or any accountability for  
> perpetrators, incrorrectly using defintions of rape and sexual  
> assault, by being embedded in alcohol EDU it sends the dangerous  
> message that alcohol causes rape, etc.).  This is not to mention my  
> overall concerns of having an online sexual assault training, but i  
> was trying to have an open-mind.
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> If any of you have any thoughts about this (positive or negative) I  
> would really love to hear them as soon as possible.  I have  
> attached the link to view it if you are interested - it took me  
> about 45 minutes to go through because i was taking a lot of notes,  
> but it says it is supposed to take 20-30 minutes.  They want  
> feedback by Tuesday so any help is greatly appreciated!
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> To access a DEMO version of Sex Matters:
> 1. Go to: http://college.alcoholedu.com/ ;
> 2. Under New User enter the following Login ID: NB1SA
> 3. Click "Sign Up."
> 4. Once you have created an account, please copy and paste the  
> following link into your web browser: http://college.alcoholedu.com/ ;
> courseoutline.aspx This link will bring you to the course outline.
> 5. From here, you can choose the Sex Matters portion of the  
> AlcoholEdu course.
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