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- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:56:56 -0500
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ah - sorry - i was taking your message to mean there were no technical
options - only conversational/educational ones -
i think we can agree schools can do both -
but my concern is that nobody appears to be trying when it comes to
harassment on these gossip sites -
if anyone knows otherwise - please let me know
wendy
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From: Linda Langford
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Sent: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:49 am
Subject: RE: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus
Wendy –
I agree with you that institutions should explore the options
you were talking about. When I said “institutions can’t
control content,” I was thinking specifically of something like a town meeting
or series of small discussions or maybe letters to the editor -- organized BY
students
FOR students -- in order to facilitate dialogue about their values related to
an
issue. For those types of activities, the administration wouldn’t tell
students
what the content of the meeting (or whatever) has to be…..but could
certainly help prepare the students to facilitate discussions of this type,
or perhaps
do something like provide an outside facilitator if the students wanted that.
I
was trying to brainstorm what other avenues might exist for institutional
action in addition to rules and technological options.
Linda
Linda Langford, Sc.D.
Associate Center Director, Higher Education Center for Alcohol
and Other Drug Abuse and Violence Prevention
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Subject: Re: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus
These
educational ideas are wonderful, Linda - but the truth is, schools CAN control
content, just as they can block access to child porn.
Filters are better than ever - and even if they don't work well - schools
can and should explicit set forth policies against speech that rises to the
level of harassment -
just having a rule about it is better than nothing - and most schools have
nothing
students will think twice about harassing any student based on race, gender
etc
- if they think they could get in trouble -
wendy
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From: Linda Langford
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Sent: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:02 am
Subject: RE: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus
One approach to this issue is to look at the institution's legal
responsibilities, and I think we should do that. In addition to the
institution
acting within its abilities to prevent and sanction directly, I wonder how
institutions might also help create
opportunities for *students* to express what
kind of environment they'd like to live in and how they feel about certain
types
of speech. For example, researchers have collected data showing that most
students feel uncomfortable around sexist and racist speech, and many think
they
are more uncomfortable than other students (i.e., "I am uncomfortable, but
others around me are ok with it.") Often there are students on campus who
feel
strongly about these issues and want to take leadership in raising them for
discussion, and they could make good use of data like these in generating
dialogue. Given the limits of what institutions can (and perhaps should)
mandate, it seems like we should also try to think about ways to support
students in creating a community discussion among themselves about what
behaviors and words are offensive and/or harmful. Obviously the institution
cannot control the *content* of these discussions, but certainly can provide
time, space, data, advisors, etc. I've heard of campuses responding to bias
incidents this way, e.g., with town meetings, vigils, etc. in which students
are
able to publicly express their negative feelings about what happened and
their
support for the victim. There are certainly risks with this approach,
especially
with specific situations which might evoke a "blame the victim" response, but
I
do think it might have potential for addressing cyber-communication in
particular.
Has anyone tried someth
ing like this approach who could speak to how it worked (or didn't)?
Linda
Linda Langford, Sc.D.
Associate Center Director, Higher Education Center for Alcohol and Other Drug
Abuse and Violence Prevention
www.HigherEdCenter.org
55 Chapel Street, Newton, MA 02458-1060
voice (800) 676-1730 x2719 OR (617) 618-2719 (direct line)
fax (617) 928-1537
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Subject: Re: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus
How do universities stop graffiti hate-harassment speech - painted on the
walls
of campus buildings?
Do they punish known offenders for violating the rights of black students if
the
writer uses prolific N-word and KKK speech to express their hatred in spray
paint all over campus?
wendy
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Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:30 am
Subject: Re: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus
Wendy,
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I agree that online harassment is vexing, but with no control over the
harasser or the harassment, how can a Title IX complaint stick?? Also, how
can a university respond to vicious postings without running afoul of the 1st
Amendment?
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Regards,
Brett A. Sokolow=0
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Brett A. Sokolow, J.D.
Attorney-At-Law
"Best Practices for Student Health and Safety"
The National Center for Higher Education Risk Management, Ltd.
(a not-for-profit corporation)
20 Callery Way
Malvern, PA 19355-2969
Tel.(610) 993-0229
Fax (610) 993-0228
www.ncherm.org
2009 President, The National Behavioral Intervention Team Association
(www.nabita.org)
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In a message dated 2/9/2009 1:26:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
As I mentioned last week - Juicy Campus shut down its website after I filed
an OCR complaint against a university that refused to take steps to stop the
brutal sexual harassment of a female student.
As predicted, however, another
site popped up immediately - and began disseminating the same
information.
Thus, we are pressing ahead with our OCR complaint.?
I wanted to let you all know because the case I filed is unprecedented
and would require schools to take steps to prevent the use of the internet
as
a venue for the dissemination of harmful speech based on race, gender,
ethnicity, religion - etc - something that I have not yet seen (at least
not
in the context of sexual harassment speech)
The IT experts with whom
I've spoken have given me lots of simple ideas for ways schools can easily
prevent sites like Juicy Campus from facilitating sexual=2
0harassment.
If any of you have ideas - feel free to send them backchannel.
Wendy Murphy
617-422-7410
_______________________________________________
- OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, wmurphylaw, 02/09/2009
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- Re: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, wmurphylaw, 02/09/2009
- RE: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, Linda Langford, 02/10/2009
- Re: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, wmurphylaw, 02/10/2009
- RE: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, Linda Langford, 02/10/2009
- Re: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, wmurphylaw, 02/10/2009
- RE: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, Linda Langford, 02/10/2009
- Re: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, wmurphylaw, 02/10/2009
- RE: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, Linda Langford, 02/10/2009
- Re: OCR complaint involving Juicy Campus, wmurphylaw, 02/09/2009
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