Skip to Content.
Sympa Menu

sapc - RE: Need advice

Subject: Discussion List for campus-based and allied personnel working to end gender-based violence on campus.

List archive

RE: Need advice


Chronological Thread 
  • From: "Marie Attis" <>
  • To: "'Brett Sokolow'" <>, "'McGough, Elizabeth M.'" <>
  • Cc: <>
  • Subject: RE: Need advice
  • Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:32:41 -0500

I agree with Bret.  In any event, the dilemma is a direct result of what he chose to do 3 1/2 years ago.  The victims has to live with the consequences for God knows how long (if not forever) so why should he not face the consequences as well?  The independent study is a courtesy, so if that doesn’t work then he should just have to be in school longer.  What he did is intolerable and the intolerance on the part of the institution should not be minimized because the crime took place over 3 years ago.

 

From: Brett Sokolow [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:52 PM
To: McGough, Elizabeth M.
Cc:
Subject: Re: Need advice

 

Why isn't the stay away still place?  It should be permanent, usually. 

Brett A. Sokolow, Esq.

Managing Partner, NCHERM

Executive Director, NABITA

Executive Director, ATIXA

610.993.0229

www.Atixa.org

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:47 AM, "McGough, Elizabeth M." <> wrote:

Good morning everyone-

 

I need some advice on a situation a student presented to me ---

 

I’m working with a female student who was raped by a male student on campus about 3 ½ years ago.  At the time she filed campus judicial charges and he was found responsible.  The final sanction for him was 1 year suspension, 1 year probation, 30 hrs of community service (which he completed), suggested counseling, and to stay away from her.  He returned to the college after the suspension and we have not had any reports of him doing anything wrong so his probation was lifted.  She also stayed at the college.

 

We are about 4 weeks into the spring semester.  She informed us last week, we were first able to meet with her yesterday, that he is in one of her classes.  This is a required class for both students, she is graduating at the end of this semester, he is only enrolled for 12 hours and dropping the class would affect his financial aid, the class is offered in both the fall and spring semesters.  She wants him removed from the class. 

 

I am being told that we can’t just remove him from class, we were advised to see if either of the students (and the instructor) would be open to completing the requirement through an independent study.  I think the students will be reluctant to do that since it is a class in their major and they are both interested in the topic  --- I hear it’s a good class.  I have not talked to the instructor yet and don’t know how accommodating he would be under the circumstances.

 

I’ve worked with situations were both students were in the same class at the time of the rape, but never when they end up in a class together years after.  If any of you have worked with students in this situation I’d like to hear how it was handled and any other advice that you might have.

 

Thanks

-Liz

 

Liz McGough, PhD, LMHC

Project Coordinator/Case Manager

Violence Intervention & Victim Advocacy

Buffalo State

Weigel Health Center, Room 223

1300 Elmwood Ave.

Buffalo, NY 14222 

(716) 878-4029

 

<Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg>

 

Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.  Thank you for helping to maintain privacy. 

 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed, as e-mail is not a secure medium. E-mail messages typically reside on various servers even after all parties have deleted the messages.  To discuss any personal concerns, please call me directly

 

 

 

<Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg>




Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.16.

Top of Page