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["Gretchen Krull" <>]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Gretchen Krull 
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This morning on NPR  there was a report about a new I-phone application
created as
an advertisement for Pepsi's "amp"
This application is called "amp up to score"  it is supposed to help men
"score" with women.
Here is the web address:
appshopper.com/entertainment/amp-up-before-your-score

  Does anyone know if there is action being taken against Pepsi? This
campaign is offensive and promotes predatory behavior towards women. 



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In any training on violence and/or alcohol - the key is not to fight
about whether someone who gets drunk? deserves to feel some degree of
responsibility.? this is a no-win battle and the debate wastes time - 

the important point is to note the difference between "risk-reduction"
and blame - or, as i like to teach it - the reason to call something a
"vulnerability" vs a "liability".

in a moral conversation - it might not matter much where you draw the
line - but in rule-making, in law and in policies and procedures on
campuses, it is critical to emphasize that an intoxicated person can NOT
consent and the aggressor will be held liable, without mitigation for
the immoral behavior of the victim.? this way, you can concede that the
victim's drinking may have increased her risk of harm, but the school's
role should be clear with potential offenders that if they take
advantage, and gamble that a person isn't capable of consenting
"knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily", the only person who will
suffer sanctions is the one who harms another (self-harm via drinking is
not the same as causing harm to another).

there's no need to figure out where to draw the line in a moral universe
if the rules are clear that law is supposed to protect the weak and
deter the cunning. (as opposed to enabling those who would exploit the
weak)

even if not all these types of cases lead to expulsion and prosecution -
the message should clearly indicate that the burden will be on the
harmdoer - and that the presumption re the drunk victim will be that she
was vulnerable - not liable -

a helpful analogy might be to consider a school's policy around alcohol
use - one that draws the line at age 21.? a? student who is almost 21
and drinks responsibly a can make a good argument that he or she
shouldn't be punished for violating the rule as compared to a barely 21
year-old who drinks to excess? and behaves irresponsibly.? the moral
discussion is interesting - but the rules are black and white to guard
the interests of the class (underage people who lack maturity, in
general, to make safe decisions about alcohol).? this mindset should
guide policy-making around alcohol and sexual violence with the focus on
the purpose of laws and rules re rape - and how they, too, are designed
to guard the interests of the class (those who lack capacity to make
safe decisions about their bodily integrity and personal autonomy).

ill add one quirk here to make things more interesting - (i raise it
with my students and when i teach this topic)

what if two students are both very drunk? - who is the harmdoer?

in theory - the answer is they are both exploiting each other and are
both harmdoers.? but there are good reasons to fight past the urge to
see it as a 50-50 issue - and to take time to explore more of the
circumstances to understand whether there is a primary responsible
party.? (this is done in DV cases all the time when a cop shows up at a
home and both the husband and wife are visibly injured - and each one
says the other is the abuser)

the role of alcohol use for males is more intentional and designed, in
many cases, to both incapacitate the victim and empower the offender -
and if this can be determined, then treating the victim and offender
alike simply because they were both drunk is poor policy.


wendy murphy




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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:29:53 -0400
From: "Bates-Pratt, Shalise" 
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Quick question.  Does anyone have any great suggestions for an evening
Orientation program about Sexual Assault.  Our college has used Sex
Signals in the past, but we really want to try something new.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Shalise Bates-Pratt, Director of Student Life
Randolph-Macon College


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