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- From: "Christopher Kilmartin" <>
- To: "" <>, "John Foubert" <>
- Subject: Re: no article, but...
- Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:33:06 -0400
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You also don't have to be a sociopath to beat a polygraph. 50% of
undergraduates were able to do so with only one hour of training. Because
everyone's physiological levels are different, the examiner has to establish
a baseline by asking neutral questions that he/she knows the answer to (what
is your name, where do you live, etc.). Then the examiner looks for a change
in the levels when asking the critical question. If you create physical pain
during the baseline question (e.g., by curling your toes underneath your feet
or tensing the sphincter muscle, neither of which an examiner could detect),
you can artificially inflate heart rate, GSR, etc., and then you relax when
you hear the critical question, which makes you stand a good chance of
looking like you're telling the truth.
and you can look like you're lying when you're telling the truth, as the
critical question can evoke anxiety, even if one is innocent. I can't
remember who called the polygraph "an insidious Orwellian torture device"
There's a good reason why they aren't admissible in court.
The important thing is that the subject BELIEVES that the polygraph will
expose lies, and of course there's no way to know. Polygraphs can be used
successfully with naive subjects, like unsophisticated sex offenders when
you're trying to find out their true histories of offending (as opposed to
just what they've been caught for). Social psychologists have used a device
called the "bogus pipeline" which is a sham machine (like Milgram's famous
"shock generator") that experimenters tell subjects is a lie detector, and
you get different results with social desirability self reports when you hook
people up to it than not.
chris
Christopher Kilmartin, Ph.D.
Professor of Psychology
University of Mary Washington
Fredericksburg, VA 22401
(540) 654-1562
>>> "Foubert, John"
>>> <>
>>> 6/1/2009 5:17 PM >>>
I don't have an article to cite on this issue of polygraphs and rapists, but
this may give you a start....
Polygraphs rely on individuals to have a nervous response to lying. A
sociopath and/or someone who does not get nervous when lying will pass a
polygraph just fine because he/she sees no problem with lying because he/she
lacks a conscience to say "you shouldn't lie, it is wrong." That, to may
understanding, is one reason why polygraphs are not admissible as evidence in
court. There are, I am sure, many perpetrators who lack a conscience, and
thus could easily pass a polygraph and then claim vindication. What the
polygraph would really show is that they are either a sociopath and/or that
they have no conscience; something we basically so often already know (unless
there is a case of mistaken identity) from the fact that they raped someone.
You might start searching in Google Scholar for articles about rape and
polygraph and see what you come up with. Just a thought.
John Foubert
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