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["Thompson, Stephen M." <>]

Hello

I have had a lot of experience dealing with perpetrators who are familiar to 
their target.  I call them the "Nice Guy".  One of the many characteristics 
they possess is their ability to justify their behavior.  They see rape as 
the stranger jumping from the bushes. In their mind what they do is not rape. 
They justify their actions by saying/thinking the "b...wanted it",  "she led 
me on", and many other statements.  Because they see this as justifiable and 
normal, it does not create anxiety when questioned by a polygraph examiner.  
Asking him questions using the words rape or sexual assault are not as 
effective as using words that would be associated with intimidation, force, 
and coercion.  A statement that would ask if he got her drunk in order to 
gain more control and get her isolated from friends would elicit a response 
that could easily indicate deceit.   Because they are so manipulative they 
often are able to con police and others who do not know the basic 
characteristics of this incredibly effective predator.

Steve



Stephen M. Thompson
Sexual Aggression Services Director
Central Michigan University
SAC 195
Mt. Pleasant, MI. 48859
Phone: 989-774-6677
Web:  www.stephenmthompson.com
Web:  www.sapa.cmich.edu


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   1. Perpetrators and polygraphs (Adriane Bang)
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:10:08 -0600
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Good afternoon.  I'm wondering if folks have any information about the
ability of sexual assault perpetrators to pass polygraph tests,
especially when they believe they have done no wrong.  I am familiar
with an article by Alan Berkowitz (posted here:
http://www.ncherm.org/pdfs/article04-berkowitz.pdf); however I'm
looking for an article without the Kobe Bryant focus. Thanks!

Adriane Bang, LMSW
Boise State University Women's Center
1910 University Drive
Boise, Idaho 83725
208-426-2406


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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:17:27 -0500
From: "Foubert, John" 
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I don't have an article to cite on this issue of polygraphs and rapists, but 
this may give you a start....

Polygraphs rely on individuals to have a nervous response to lying.  A 
sociopath and/or someone who does not get nervous when lying will pass a 
polygraph just fine because he/she sees no problem with lying because he/she 
lacks a conscience to say "you shouldn't lie, it is wrong."  That, to may 
understanding, is one reason why polygraphs are not admissible as evidence in 
court.   There are, I am sure, many perpetrators who lack a conscience, and 
thus could easily pass a polygraph and then claim vindication.  What the 
polygraph would really show is that they are either a sociopath and/or that 
they have no conscience; something we basically so often already know (unless 
there is a case of mistaken identity) from the fact that they raped someone.  
You might start searching in Google Scholar for articles about rape and 
polygraph and see what you come up with.  Just a thought.

John Foubert

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