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[Connie Kirkland <>]

In Virginia, police departments do not pay for SANE/forensic exams ever. The 
cost is taken
care of by the VA Supreme Court -- so that is no reason for exams to be 
denied to anyone
who wants one in Virginia.

Connie


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> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:24:08 -0400
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> The use of PERKs is very dependent on the local jurisdiction and state 
> laws.  If
> a hospital or medical clinic is staffed by offician SANE examiners, then 
> they
> are entitled to get the PERKs from the local state (police) lab to use, 
> with or
> without the police involvement.  However, there are many local police
> departments that will not authorize a SANE exam if they do not believe the
> victim or do not believe the victim wants to prosecute.
>
> This has always been a great difficulty, especially on a college campus, 
> where
> students are sexually assaulted in many jurisdictions surrounding the 
> campus.
> Thus, many police departments may, in fact, respond to the same hospital 
> and use
> different sets of procedures.  If the victim wants to have a SANE exam done 
> at a
> hospital, usually the state will pay for the process only if the police are
> involved upfront and authorize the exam.
>
> Some states are much more progressive and don't require and official police
> report first!  At George Mason University, we are in the process of 
> initiating a
> SANE-qualified medical clinic here on campus which will allow for students 
> to
> have a PERK done by a university SANE, with or without police involvement.  
> We
> intend to keep the kits for a period of time to allow the student to make a
> better decision about whether or not to prosecute.  The PERK kits are free; 
> the
> exam itself costs less than $100... it's the analysis that is expensive. At 
> that
> point, with a police report, once again it reverts back to the state paying 
> for
> that expense.
>
> Connie
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> -
> Connie J. Kirkland
> Coordinator, Sexual Assault Services
> George Mason University
> 4400 University Drive, MSN 2B2
> Fairfax, VA 22030-4444
> (703) 993-4364
> (703) 993-3685 fax
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> www.sexualassaultservices.gmu.edu
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> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:38:09 -0400
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> on 8/29/05 1:24 PM, Connie Kirkland at 
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> > Some states are much more progressive and don't require and official 
> > police
> > report first!
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> How about Virginia?
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> ********************************
> S. Daniel Carter
> Senior Vice President
> Security On Campus, Inc.
> http://www.securityoncampus.org/
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> States seem to vary in who pays for sexual assault examinations. I  don't
> mean to sound cynical but it seems to me that law enforcement is much more
> restrictive about authorizing an exam when it comes out of their own  
> budget.
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> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:54:16 -0500
> From: "LaDue, Lee E. " 
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> In regards to Daniel Carter's question, I am forwarding this information
> from the Natl. Center for Victims of Crime.  As you can see from their
> list, the payment issue varies from state to state.  Here in MN a
> statute was recently passed that attempted to clarify that victim's
> should not be charged even if they don't report to the police.  Our
> local hospital keeps the evidence up to four months which allows the
> victim/survivor some time to decide about reporting.  Even with this new
> wording, we battled for some time with our county attorney's office to
> agree to pay for all of the exams, but we seem to have it settled now
> and all of them are being paid for by the county.  However, it is my
> experience that even with a well-written statute, the payment issue can
> still be difficult and in the past we had many examples of exams not
> getting paid for by the county even though the statute seemed clear to
> us. Sexual assault centers around the state report varying responses
> from their individual counties.   We formed a hospital sexual assault
> task force that has advocates, hospital staff, law enforcement and
> county attorney representatives and this is how we finally came to an
> agreement on payment. =20
>
> I also attached some information from our state coalition on payment
> issues but of course this is specific to MN but it may be helpful to
> those of you who are working to change your state statute language.
>
> Lee LaDue
> Assistant Director/Coordinator of Sexual Assault Services
> St. Cloud State University Women's Center
> 720 4th Ave. S.
> St. Cloud, MN 56301
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> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:52 AM
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> Subject: [NAESVPolicy] Forensic exam payment information
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> I am forwarding a message from the National Center for Victims of Crime
> regarding information they have put together on forensic exam payments.
> A message from Ilse Knecht, Deputy Director of Public Policy appears
> below. They are both wanting to share this information with state sexual
> assault coalitions as well as getting your feedback on specific state
> facts if the information is not accurate in the attached document.
>
> Thanks so much. We hope you find this helpful information.   Ellen
>
> Dear Colleagues:
>
> The National Center for Victims of Crime has compiled the information in
> this chart in response to a request from the field about how many other
> states require victims to cooperate with law enforcement in order to get
> a forensic exam covered.  We have taken this information from our
> reading of each state's laws regarding payment of forensic exams.   We
> invite your input!   If you review the information for your state and
> find that we have misunderstood a statute or missed a law, or if you
> would just like to tell us how this is working on the ground, please
> feel free to e-mail Ilse Knecht,  Deputy Director, Public Policy,
> 
>  or call 202-467-8723.=20
>
> Thanks! =20
>
> ________________________________
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> Ilse Knecht
> Deputy Director, Public Policy
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> National Center for Victims of Crime
> 2000 M Street, NW, Suite 480
> Washington, D.C.=20
> Cell: 703-732-2446
> 202-467-8700
> 202-467-8701
> www.ncvc.org
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> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:06:37 -0400
> From: "S. Daniel Carter" 
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> To: "LaDue, Lee E." 
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> Unfortunately the issue wasn't payment, which there is more information
> about. But in one of our cases the police actually precluded the hospital
> from conducting the evidence collection even when there was an offer to have
> it paid for privately.
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> ********************************
> S. Daniel Carter
> Senior Vice President
> Security On Campus, Inc.
> http://www.securityoncampus.org/
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> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:16:56 -0400
> From: Connie Kirkland 
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> To: "S. Daniel Carter" 
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> Cc: "Claire N. Kaplan" 
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> Cc: Ilse Knecht 
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> If a victim comes to a hospital in Virginia and requests an evidence exam 
> due to
> a rape or sodomy, the hospitals must call the police unless the person says
> she/he can pay for the evidence exam out of pocket.
>
> "S. Daniel Carter" wrote:
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> > on 8/29/05 1:24 PM, Connie Kirkland at 
> > 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Some states are much more progressive and don't require and official 
> > > police
> > > report first!
> >
> > How about Virginia?
> >
> > ********************************
> > S. Daniel Carter
> > Senior Vice President
> > Security On Campus, Inc.
> > http://www.securityoncampus.org/
> > e-mail:
>
> --
> Connie J. Kirkland
> Coordinator, Sexual Assault Services
> George Mason University
> 4400 University Drive, MSN 2B2
> Fairfax, VA 22030-4444
> (703) 993-4364
> (703) 993-3685 fax
> 
> www.sexualassaultservices.gmu.edu
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Connie J. Kirkland
Coordinator, Sexual Assault Services
George Mason University
4400 University Drive, MSN 2B2
Fairfax, VA 22030-4444
(703) 993-4364
(703) 993-3685 fax

www.sexualassaultservices.gmu.edu