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I have to strongly disagree with the interpretation that reporting may go down as students become more experienced at college and thus have a different view of what sexual asault is. If anything, many freshmen do not know the legal definition and do not classify what has happened to them as a sexual assault. Additionally many women do not think it can be a sexual assault if they know the person, if they did not fight, and if they were on a date. The profile of the college rapist is that he tends to be older than his targets, he is called a really "nice guy", and he targets freshmen more than any other class. Why? In my interviews with him over the past 27 years, he selects freshmen because they have little experience, little support, and because they are away from home they have not learned to balance concern for safety with freedom. It is the same reason the high school senior asks the freshman or sophmore to prom. They are flattered by the attention of this older, "nice guy". My experience is that most familiar assaults (date/acquaintance) are premeditated. He plans the "conquest". He knows who, how, and where. He pushes alcohol and drugs because they are a tool he uses to gain control.
I would also like to address the numbers I gave. Central Michigan University requires that all new students attend a program we present called No Zebras, No Excuses. Over 4,000 students see this program before classes begin. Our Sexual Assault Peer Advocates are the presenters. The contacts the advocates get are peer to peer, not peer to university official or police. Not many of the 670+ contacts over the past three years were reported to the university or police. Our numbers show that the majority of sexual assaults that occur are perpetrated against new students (58%). If you evalute the crime by looking at the perpetrator, you will understand why this is true.
Steve
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1. effective text for ads/posters (Linda Lumley)
2. RE: SAPC Digest, Vol 240, Issue 1 (Rus Funk)
3. First semester rape (Catherine Bath)
4. Re: SAPC Digest, Vol 240, Issue 1 (S. Daniel Carter)
5. RE: First semester rape and Occam's Razor (Robert Franklin)
6. Rape First Semester (Mike Domitrz (author & speaker))
7. Re: Rape First Semester
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I've just spent quite a bit of time developing clear, compelling,
and concise text for a small ad space on a table tent that will sit
on all the cafeteria tables in our Residence Halls during the month
of September. The simple message in this ad is, if you are
sexually assaulted, reach out for help.
It occurred to me that many of us develop messages and language for
ads, flyers, and posters. Perhaps we could share our creations with
each other so that we can all benefit from the collective wisdom and
creativity of all of our programs. I find this kind of writing the
most difficult. Writing a "long" brochure is far easier. With an
ad or a flyer or poster that is intended to send a message (and not
simply describe services), both the message itself and how it is
expressed matters. And every word counts.
So I invite you to share with listserv members the messages and
language you have developed for print ads, flyers, and posters. By
"message" I mean, for example:
* encouraging survivors to get help
* defining sexual assault or sexual misconduct in ways that
students understand
* messages related to risk reduction
Here is what I have come up with for this small tablel tent ad:
Tell someone . . .
Every year, thousands of college women and men are sexually assaulted.
Most tell no one and many suffer personally and academically. Tell someone . . . No matter what, it's not your fault.
Healing is possible and help is available.
Contact Linda Lumley, WMU Office of
Health Promotion & Education, 387-2995.
Confidential support, information, and
Assistance.
Tell Someone . . .
if someone forced you to have sex against your will.
No matter what, it's not your fault.
A sexual assault can be a trauma that
keeps on hurting. But healing is possible, and help is available. Contact Linda Lumley, office of
Health Promotion & Education
387-2995. Confidential support,
information, and assistance.
Tell Someone . . .
If someone had sex with you against
your will. If it's causing you pain and you can't
forget it.
Healing is possible, and help is available. Contact Linda Lumley, WMU Office of
Health Promotion & Education,
387-2995. Confidential support, information, and assistance.
Linda Lumley, M.P.H.
coordinator, Gender and Health Education
Office of Health Promotion and Education
Sindecuse Health Center
Western Michigan University
Kalamazoo, MI 49008-5445
269-387-2995
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Ashley;
I totally agree with your alternative interpretation of this data -- or
some combination of the possible interpretations.
It may also be that as students get more involved in campus life, and
get more influenced by other students' behaviors and attitudes, that
their defintion of abuse and rape changes meaning that what they might
define as rape or abuse within their 1st 2 months are not defined as
rape or abuse later on...
Rus Ervin Funk, MSW
Center for Women and Families
PO Box 2048
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I wonder whether there are more reports to the school during the first
two months of the freshman year because there are actually more assaults
happening--an alternate explanation could be that freshmen trust the
school more than students who have been there for a while, and think the
school will help them, while older students tend to be disillusioned
about this and don't report. Another possibility could be that freshmen
are reporting to peer advocates because they haven't yet developed any
close friendships at school. After a year, people are more likely to
have a friend at school that they feel comfortable talking to. Just a
thought...
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(58%) occurred during the first two months of the freshman college
experience. The prime reason for this is that freshman are much more
vulnerable.
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I think I remember a discussion on this topic last summer and I do not
remember anyone actually finding the source??? But this is a very good
article on the first six or seven months of the school year._______________________________________________
www.cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/e03021472.pdf
If anyone has this info I would also be interested.
Bob
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109 Governor Street, 8th Floor
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I think Mr. Thomson's survey at Virginia is indicative of what we all have
seen anecdotally and repeatedly: rape in the first months of the freshman
year is common. The reasons for this are that freshman girls arrive on
campus na=EFve and not knowing their limits with regard to alcohol. For this
reason they may be targeted more frequently. Education (before they get to
college) is essential.
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Executive Director
Security on Campus, Inc.
(888) 251-7959
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:28:08 -0400
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One thing I've noticed is that in the fall the level of personal connection
between the acquaintances involved in sexual assaults is lower, often having
only met recently. Is it possible that this is a factor in their being
willing to come forward?
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S. Daniel Carter
Senior Vice President
Security On Campus, Inc.
http://www.securityoncampus.org/
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:40:38 -0400
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I really believe the idea offered earlier about the possibility of fi=
rst
year students reporting info to authorities or speaking to someone in
authority in the first few months before friendships are formed and d=
istrust
of the system could be a real application of Occam's Razor to this is=
sue and
the lack of research to support this idea. Though the Virginia Surve=
y looks
promising. Just because intelligence increases with foot size does no=
t mean
there is a correlation.
Bob
ps - I worked in Higher Education Administration for seven years doin=
g Res
Life stuff so I do have the college expereince part down. And to all=
those
Res Life folks out there going crazy with training RA's, and RD's and=
all
those folks - Don't forget to take care of yourself.
---PLEASE NOTE NEW INFO as of 12/15/03---
Robert L. Franklin, MS
Male Outreach Coordinator for
Sexual Violence Prevention
Center for Injury and Violence Prevention
Virginia Department of Health
109 Governor Street, 8th Floor
Richmond VA 23219
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The overall issue is education. The earlier -- the better. Getting K-12 to
appropriately and openly discuss sexual assault and healthy relationships is
improving. Nevertheless, we still have a long way to go. For this reason,
we need to be diligent about getting these important messages to college
students as soon as possible. The sooner we can reveal how this issue
effects each student on a personal basis, the sooner the student can create
a stronger awareness in their own life and in the lives of others.
Orientation is a great place to start the conversation and education. The
key is to follow that first educational moment with many more programs
throughout each year. In addition, provide varied educational programming.
Presenters on this issue can tell you how often students say, "I've heard
rape and sexual assault programs before, but I never realized . . ." The
more chances we provide for learning, the greater the chances are that
positive change will take place. Education is a life-long journey!!
Mike Domitrz
-- "Can I Kiss You? Dating, Communication, Respect & Sexual Assault
Awareness" for Students & Educators
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One thing I've noticed is that in the fall the level of personalconnection
between the acquaintances involved in sexual assaults is lower, oftenhaving
only met recently. Is it possible that this is a factor in their being
willing to come forward?
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I don't think any of us would question that education is essential, or
that freshmen should receive education about sexual assault. In fact, I'm
pretty sure all of us wish there was much more education! I think the
reason this group cares whether rape is more common during the first
semester is because they want to make their prevention programs as
effective as possible. If it's true that freshmen women are behaving in
some way that makes them more vulnerable to sexual assault, prevention
programs would need to address this (and find a way to do it without
victim blaming). If it is not true, and freshman women are not assaulted
more often, then repeating the stat is dangerous to older students because
it gives them a false sense of security. More importantly, I worry that
it can encourage focus on victim behavior rather than perpetrator
attitudes and actions, which are really what needs to change.
Until someone does the study that settles the question, I think we could
all agree that prevention programs, perfect or not, should take place
early and often.
Ashley Burczak
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The overall issue is education. The earlier -- the better. Getting K-12
to
appropriately and openly discuss sexual assault and healthy relationships
is
improving. Nevertheless, we still have a long way to go. For this
reason,
we need to be diligent about getting these important messages to college
students as soon as possible. The sooner we can reveal how this issue
effects each student on a personal basis, the sooner the student can
create
a stronger awareness in their own life and in the lives of others.
Orientation is a great place to start the conversation and education. The
key is to follow that first educational moment with many more programs
throughout each year. In addition, provide varied educational
programming.
Presenters on this issue can tell you how often students say, "I've heard
rape and sexual assault programs before, but I never realized . . ." The
more chances we provide for learning, the greater the chances are that
positive change will take place. Education is a life-long journey!!
Mike Domitrz
-- "Can I Kiss You? Dating, Communication, Respect & Sexual Assault
Awareness" for Students & Educators
-- Watch Video Online at www.domitrz.com
-- Toll-Free: (800) 329-9390
-- Website: www.domitrz.com
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I have a slightly different perspective.
I'm not at all convinced that education alone is the solution to
creating healthier relationships and reducing the incidence of rape,
abuse and harassment. Certainly not the forms of education that are
currently most common.
We know -- KNOW -- that changes in attitudes require long term,
multi-faceted work. And there is unclear evidence that changes in
attitudes translates into changes in behavior. As an example, there has
been a great deal of work around the issues of drunk driving (fueled
largely by the grassroots efforts of MADD). What used to be commonly
accepted is not no longer in vogue. Most people, when asked, have a
negative attitude about drinking and driving. And yet, there hasn't
been much of a change in the rates at which people drink and drive
(including those with a negative attitude about drinking and driving)
since the initial rate reduction in the mid 70's and early 80's.
What seemed most effective about MADD's work -- and other kinds of
social change efforts -- is to use grassroots education along with
activist training, technical assistance and support, and hard core
community organizing stactics.
Not terribly different than what was successful in ending lynching,
reducing (tho admittedly not eliminating) other forms of hate crimes,
and the initial efforts of the rape crisis and domestic violence
movements.
Seems to me that we need to re-ignite our effort to build in communit
organizing and other social change strategies and use education (in a
vareity of forms) as one set of tools in our toolbox to encourage the
development of healthy relationships.
Rus Ervin Funk, MSW
Center for Women and Families
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The overall issue is education. The earlier -- the better. Getting
K-12 to appropriately and openly discuss sexual assault and healthy
relationships is improving. Nevertheless, we still have a long way to
go. For this reason, we need to be diligent about getting these
important messages to college students as soon as possible. The sooner
we can reveal how this issue effects each student on a personal basis,
the sooner the student can create a stronger awareness in their own life
and in the lives of others. Orientation is a great place to start the
conversation and education. The key is to follow that first educational
moment with many more programs throughout each year. In addition,
provide varied educational programming.
Presenters on this issue can tell you how often students say, "I've
heard rape and sexual assault programs before, but I never realized . .
." The more chances we provide for learning, the greater the chances
are that positive change will take place. Education is a life-long
journey!!
Mike Domitrz
-- "Can I Kiss You? Dating, Communication, Respect & Sexual Assault
Awareness" for Students & Educators
-- Watch Video Online at www.domitrz.com
-- Toll-Free: (800) 329-9390
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One thing I've noticed is that in the fall the level of personalconnection
between the acquaintances involved in sexual assaults is lower, oftenhaving
only met recently. Is it possible that this is a factor in their being
willing to come forward?
********************************
S. Daniel Carter
Senior Vice President
Security On Campus, Inc.
http://www.securityoncampus.org/
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- Re: SAPC Digest, Vol 240, Issue 2, Steve Thompson, 08/12/2004
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