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["John D. Foubert" <>]

Dear Colleagues,

I agree with Molly's latest email to the SAPC list serve that the guys with 
Men Can Stop Rape do great work, I applaud their efforts and encourage 
people to use their materials as part of a comprehensive approach to rape 
prevention.  I doubt that they wish to be listed as the alternative to NO 
MORE.  Personally I believe that both organizations do great work and folks 
would do well to use the resources of both organizations.  In our complex 
field, most often, the more we do to end rape, the better, and the more 
different and valuable approaches we can use, the more folks we can 
reach.  I have profound respect for David Sloane Rider, Neil Irvin, 
Jonathan Stillerman, Patrick Lemmon, and all the folks I've interacted with 
at MCSR over the years and hope they and their approach continues to spread 
in its influence as we work together toward the same goal.

It is indeed true that several folks have written critiques of my work in 
and through NO MORE; the vast majority of whom have been men who authored 
other rape prevention programs -- as with all opinion pieces, its important 
to consider the source.  And in fact others who are not men marketing their 
own programs have found weaknesses in the approach I authored in The Men's 
Program and NO MORE's videos.  That is of course natural -- not everyone 
will like every approach, I of course understand that, and have been given 
many chances to re-learn that lesson over and over again in the last 11 
years.

A few years back, I partnered a diverse group of folks in the rape 
prevention field, especially including an openly gay male involved in the 
movement to end rape, to re-shoot our video from a gay-affirmative and 
non-homophobic perspective.  The former copy that I used was indeed quite 
troublesome and contained homophobic comments.  I regret ever using 
it.  Thanks to many folks who helped me see every level of that.  Our newer 
video, as most have actually seen would agree, is a profoundly different 
and better way of showing men how rape may feel, and helps them translate 
that empathy into long-term changes in attitudes and likelihood of 
raping.  As a recent book by University of Illinois Professor Paul Schewe 
has affirmed, The Men's Program remains "...the only program to report 
clear long-term (more than 7 months) positive effects of an 
intervention..."  My latest research that will come out in the next year or 
two in the journals shows that 100% of fraternity men and athletes in my 
latest study reported long-term attitude and/or behavior change as a direct 
result of seeing a "One in Four" group present "The Men's Program."  In the 
3 or so years since most critiques have been published, the program and 
video have been changed and improved so that it is now better, more 
inclusive, and indeed more effective than ever.

If anyone has read anything about the program -- pro or con -- and would 
like more information, I have many files already written that I can send to 
you at your request.  Also if anyone is curious to evaluate the program for 
themselves, I am happy to provide a free review copy of one of our videos 
of the entire program being presented by peer educators with our police 
video dubbed in for you to make your own informed decision.  As always, I 
am happy to email or talk with anyone who would like to engage in 
thoughtful and collaborative discussion.  For more information, I encourage 
you to see my website, www.nomorerape.org.

Thank you.

John Foubert

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John D. Foubert, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Higher Education and
President, National Organization of Men's Outreach for Rape Education, Inc.
The College of William and Mary
School of Education, Jones 320
P.O. Box 8795
Williamsburg, VA  23187-8795

(757) 221-2322
(757) 221-2988 (fax)
www.nomorerape.org